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Raising the Izaar above the Ankles
Shaikh M. Ibrahim Memon Madani

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As the rift of time grows between us and the Blessed Prophet (saw), so too grows our impassiveness towards the Sunnah and involvement in sin. Today, many sins are no longer recognized as sins, but rather justified as righteous deeds. Let us reflect on the words of Anas (ra) when he said to his students (who were tabi'een):

"You perform acts that are smaller in your eyes than a strand of hair (meaning that you triviliaze sin), yet we considered them a grave offense in the time of the Blessed Prophet (saw)."

This was the situation in the time of tabieen, can we imagine what it is like in our times? It is only by the beneficence of Allah (swt) that the Qur'an and hadith are preserved to this day and if one desires to study them, one can still learn what Allah (swt) and his Blessed Prophet (saw) liked or disliked.
It is our responsibility to warn people of each sin as it spreads, to educate them about its wickedness, and to help them realize that these things bring on the curse of Allah (swt) and his Blessed Prophet (saw). This way those of us who are destined to receive guidance and who are in search of it can benefit by learning and implementing the correct practices.
One sin which has become common practice today is that of allowing the pants to hang below the ankles (isbaal). In light of the ahadith, we learn that this is a grave sin.
However, when we observe the common practice, we see ambivalence towards fulfilling this practice to the extent that even those considered religious and devout in deen are also heedless in this regard. The main reason behind this ambivalence is unawareness of the ahadith on isbaal al-izaar (hanging the pants below the ankles). This is why I decided to collect some ahadith and present them before everyone. May Allah (swt) save us from all sins, big and small. Ameen.
After writing the above piece I came upon this hadith in Musnad Ahmad that whenever Muhammud bin Sereen rahmatullahi alayh (a great tabi' renowned for his piety, knowledge, and mastery in dream interpretations) would hear the statement of the Sahaba (ra), "You perform acts that are smaller in your eyes than a strand of ..." he would say:

"This is in reference to the sin of keeping the clothes below the ankles, which is trivialized by the people even though it was one of the most destructive sins in the time of the Blessed Prophet (saw)."

May Allah (swt) save us from destruction and His punishment.

M. Ibrahim Memon Madania


HADITH ON RAISING THE IZAAR ABOVE THE ANKLES

عَنْ أَبِى هُرَيْرَةَ رضى الله عنه عَنِ النَّبِىِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ مَا أَسْفَلَ مِنَ الْكَعْبَيْنِ مِنَ الإِزَارِ فَفِى النَّارِ - بخاري حـ5787، ابوداؤد حـ4093

Abu Hurairah (ra) narrates the Blessed Prophet (saw) said: "That which is below the ankle of the izaar (anything which is worn to cover the lower half of the body) is in the hellfire."

عَنْ أَبِى ذَرٍّ عَنِ النَّبِىِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ثَلاَثَةٌ لاَ يُكَلِّمُهُمُ اللَّهُ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ وَلاَ يَنْظُرُ إِلَيْهِمْ وَلاَ يُزَكِّيهِمْ وَلَهُمْ عَذَابٌ أَلِيمٌ قَالَ فَقَرَأَهَا رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ثَلاَثَ مِرَارٍ قَالَ أَبُو ذَرٍّ خَابُوا وَخَسِرُوا مَنْ هُمْ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ قَالَ الْمُسْبِلُ وَالْمَنَّانُ وَالْمُنَفِّقُ سِلْعَتَهُ بِالْحَلِفِ الْكَاذِبِ . - مسلم حـ153 ترمذي حـ1132 نسائي حـ2516 ابو داؤد حـ3565 ابن ماجه حـ2199 احمد حـ20355 دارمي حـ2491

Abu Zarr (ra) narrates the Blessed Prophet (saw) said: "There are three people whom Allah (swt) will not speak to, look at, or cleanse on the day of judgement and for them is a harsh punishment." The Blessed Prophet (saw) said this thrice. Then Abu Zarr (ra) asked, "They are certainly unsuccessful and destroyed. Who are they, O Blessed Prophet?" He(saw) replied, "The one who hangs his izaar below his ankles, the one who reminds another of his favors upon him, and one who makes false oaths to sell his items."

عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ عَنِ النَّبِىِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ لاَ يَنْظُرُ إِلَى مُسْبِلِ. - نسائي حـ5337 احمد حـ2803

Ibn Abbas (ra) narrates the Blessed Prophet (saw) said: "Allah (swt) will not look upon a person who hung his izaar below his ankles."

عَنْ أَبِى هُرَيْرَةَ قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم مَا تَحْتَ الْكَعْبَيْنِ مِنَ الإِزَارِ فَفِى النَّارِ. - نسائي حـ5235 احمد حـ7155

Abu Hurairah (ra) narrates the Blessed Prophet (saw) said: "Whatever hangs beneath the ankles of the izaar is in the hellfire."

عَنِ الْعَلاَءِ بْنِ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ عَنْ أَبِيهِ قَالَ سَأَلْتُ أَبَا سَعِيدٍ الْخُدْرِىَّ عَنِ الإِزَارِ فَقَالَ عَلَى الْخَبِيرِ سَقَطْتَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم إِزْرَةُ الْمُسْلِمِ إِلَى نِصْفِ السَّاقِ وَلاَ حَرَجَ أَوْ لاَ جُنَاحَ فِيمَا بَيْنَهُ وَبَيْنَ الْكَعْبَيْنِ مَا كَانَ أَسْفَلَ مِنَ الْكَعْبَيْنِ فَهُوَ فِى النَّارِ مَنْ جَرَّ إِزَارَهُ بَطَراً لَمْ يَنْظُرِ اللَّهُ إِلَيْهِ . - ابو داؤد حـ3570 مؤطأ مالك حـ1426 احمد حـ11489 ابن ماجه حـ3573

Alaa bin Abdul Rahman (ra) narrates from his father who asked Abu Saeed Khudri (ra) about the izaar. He replied,"You have fallen upon one who knows." The Blessed Prophet (saw) said: "The izaar of a Muslim is halfway to the leg and there is no harm in that which comes between the knee and the ankle. Whatever hangs below the ankle is in the hellfire. Whoever drags his izaar in arrogance, Allah (swt) does not look at him."

عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بن عمر أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ « بَيْنَا رَجُلٌ يَجُرُّ إِزَارَهُ مِنَ الْخُيَلاَء ، خُسِفَ بِهِ ، فَهْوَ يَتَجَلَّلُ فِى الأَرْضِ إِلَى يَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ - .بخاري حـ3226 ترمذي حـ2315 نسائي حـ5231 احمد حـ5088

Abdullah Ibn Omar (ra) narrates the Blessed Prophet (saw) said: "Once, a man amongst the haughty dragged his izaar; he sank into the ground with his izaar and is sinking in it until the Day of Judgement."

عَنْ أَبِى هُرَيْرَةَ قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم بَيْنَمَا رَجُلٌ شَابٌّ يَمْشِى فِى حُلَّةٍ يَتَبَخْتَرُ فِيهَا مُسْبِلاً إِزَارَهُ إِذْ بَلَعَتْهُ الأَرْضُ فَهُوَ يَتَجَلْجَلُ فِيهَا إِلَى يَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ . - مسند احمد حـ9986 بخاري حـ5343 مسلم حـ3894 دارمي حـ438

Abu Hurairah (ra) narrates the Blessed Prophet (saw) said: "Once, a young man who walking haughtily in a suit with his izaar hanging below his ankles was swallowed in by the earth. He is sinking in the earth until the Day of Judgement."


GENERAL HADITH FORBIDDING ISBAAL

The aforementioned ahadith indicate the severity of the sin of hanging the izaar below the ankles. Which Muslim would not be shaken by these ahadith? Although some of the ahadith above indicate that the warning is for the arrogant and haughty, there are numerous ahadith that speak in general terms. Thus, even those who do not hang there izaar below the ankle with that intention are required to keep their izaar above their ankle. Some of theses ahadith were mentioned above and many others will be presented ahead.
We also need to realize that no person considers himself arrogant. Arrogance is an internal sickness in which the afflicted actually thinks he is humble. The Blessed Prophet (saw), the doctor of spiritual sicknesses, informs us that one of the external signs of arrogance is keeping the izaar below the ankles. This is why in some ahadith, the Blessed Prophet (saw) unequivocally stated that isbaal (keeping izaar below the ankle) is of arrogance. This is understood from the following hadith:

عَنْ أَبِى جُرَىٍّ جَابِرِ بْنِ سُلَيْمٍ قَالَ. قُلْتُ اعْهَدْ إِلَىَّ قَالَ لاَ تَسُبَّنَّ أَحَداً قَالَ فَمَا سَبَبْتُ بَعْدَهُ حُرًّا وَلاَ عَبْداً وَلاَ بَعِيراً وَلاَ شَاةً قَالَ وَلاَ تَحْقِرَنَّ شَيْئاً مِنَ الْمَعْرُوفِ وَأَنْ تُكَلِّمَ أَخَاكَ وَأَنْتَ مُنْبَسِطٌ إِلَيْهِ وَجْهُكَ إِنَّ ذَلِكَ مِنَ الْمَعْرُوفِ وَارْفَعْ إِزَارَكَ إِلَى نِصْفِ السَّاقِ فَإِنْ أَبَيْتَ فَإِلَى الْكَعْبَيْنِ وَإِيَّاكَ وَإِسْبَالَ الإِزَارِ فَإِنَّهَا مِنَ الْمَخِيلَةِ وَإِنَّ اللَّهَ لاَ يُحِبُّ الْمَخِيلَةَ وَإِنِ امْرُؤٌ شَتَمَكَ وَعَيَّرَكَ بِمَا يَعْلَمُ فِيكَ فَلاَ تُعَيِّرْهُ بِمَا تَعْلَمُ فِيهِ فَإِنَّمَا وَبَالُ ذَلِكَ عَلَيْهِ. - ابو داؤد حـ3562 احمد حـ15389

Jaabir bin Sulaim (ra) narrates that I said to the Blessed Prophet (saw): Oh Blessed Prophet, advise me. He (saw) replied: "Do not swear at anyone." He (Jaabiir (ra)) says after this, I never swore at a free person, a slave, a camel, or even a goat. He (saw) said: "Do not underestimate anything of goodness, and that if you speak to your brother with a glad countenance, this is also of goodness. Lift you izaar halfway through the leg. And if you don't desire (halfway), then up to the ankles. Save yourself from extending the izaar below the ankles, it is of arrogance. Allah (swt) does not like arrogance. If a man swears at you, taunts you for something he knows about you, do not taunt him for something you know about him. The consequences of his sin will come upon him."

In the aforementioned hadith, the Blessed Prophet (saw) clearly stated that hanging the izaar below the ankle is of arrogance. Whenever the Blessed Prophet (saw) saw someone with their izaar hanging below their ankles, he would rebuke them and order them to lift it above their ankles.

عَنْ الشَّرِيدَ يَقُولُ أَبْصَرَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم رَجُلاً يَجُرُّ إِزَارَهُ فَأَسْرَعَ إِلَيْهِ أَوْ هَرْوَلَ فَقَالَ ارْفَعْ إِزَارَكَ وَاتَّقِ اللَّهَ قَالَ إِنِّى أَحْنَفُ تَصْطَكُّ رُكْبَتَاىَ فَقَالَ ارْفَعْ إِزَارَكَ فَإِنَّ كُلَّ خَلْقِ اللَّهِ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ حَسَنٌ فَمَا رُئِىَ ذَلِكَ الرَّجُلُ بَعْدُ إِلاَّ إِزَارُهُ يُصِيبُ أَنْصَافَ سَاقَيْهِ أَوْ إِلَى أَنْصَافِ سَاقَيْه. -مسند احمد حـ18653

Shareed (ra) narrates that the Blessed Prophet (saw) saw a man whose izaar was dragging against the ground. He (saw) ran to him and said: "Lift your izaar and fear Allah (swt)." The man said, "My feet are bent inward, and my knees shake." The Blessed Prophet (saw) said, "Lift your izaar, all the creations of Allah (swt) are made perfectly." After this, the man was never seen except that his izaar was halfway to his leg or between his knees and ankles.

عَنْ قَيْسِ بْنِ بِشْرٍ التَّغْلِبِىِّ قَالَ أَخْبَرَنِى أَبِى وَكَانَ جَلِيساً لأَبِى الدَّرْدَاءِ قَالَ كَانَ بِدِمَشْقَ رَجُلٌ مِنْ أَصْحَابِ النَّبِىِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم يُقَالُ لَهُ ابْنُ الْحَنْظَلِيَّةِ وَكَانَ رَجُلاً مُتَوَحِّداً قَلَّمَا يُجَالِسُ النَّاسَ إِنَّمَا هُوَ صَلاَةٌ فَإِذَا فَرَغَ فَإِنَّمَا هُوَ تَسْبِيحٌ وَتَكْبِيرٌ حَتَّى يَأْتِىَ أَهْلَهُ فَمَرَّ بِنَا وَنَحْنُ عِنْدَ أَبِى الدَّرْدَاءِ فَقَالَ لَهُ أَبُو الدَّرْدَاءِ كَلِمَةً تَنْفَعُنَا وَلاَ تَضُرُّكَ قَالَ قَالَ لَنَا رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم نِعْمَ الرَّجُلُ خُرَيْمٌ الأَسَدِىُّ لَوْلاَ طُولُ جُمَّتِهِ وَإِسْبَالُ إِزَارِهِ فَبَلَغَ ذَلِكَ خُرَيْماً فَعَجِلَ فَأَخَذَ شَفْرَةً فَقَطَعَ بِهَا جُمَّتَهُ إِلَى أُذُنَيْهِ وَرَفَعَ إِزَارَهُ إِلَى أَنْصَافِ سَاقَيْهِ. - ابو داؤد حـ3566

Qais bin Bishr al Taghlibi narrates from his father who would sit in the company of Abu Darda (ra): One of the companions of the Blessed Prophet (saw), named Abu Hanzalia (ra), was in Damascus. He was a lone man who rarely sat in the company of people. He would only be in salah and when he completed his salah he would be in tasbih and takbir until he went to his family.
Once, he passed by us while we were sitting in the company of Abu Darda (ra). Abu Darda (ra) said to him, "Tell us something that will be of benefit to us and which will not trouble you." He replied, "The Blessed Prophet (saw) said, ‘What an excellent man is Khurraim Asadi (ra), (but) only if his hair was not so long and his izaar did not hang below his ankles.'"
"When Khurraim heard this, he quickly got a pair scissors, cut his hair to his ears, and raised his izaar to a place between his knees and ankles."

عَنِ الْمُغِيرَةِ بْنِ شُعْبَةَ قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَا سُفْيَانَ بْنَ سَهْلٍ لاَ تُسْبِلْ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ لاَ يُحِبُّ الْمُسْبِلِينَ. - ابن ماجه حـ3563 احمد حـ17449

Mughira bin Shuba' (ra) narrates the Blessed Prophet (saw) said: "Oh Sufyan Bin Sahl, do not hang your izaar, Allah (swt) does not like people who hang their izaar below their ankles."

عَنْ حُذَيْفَةَ قَالَ أَخَذَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم بِعَضَلَةِ سَاقِى أَوْ سَاقِهِ فَقَالَ هَذَا مَوْضِعُ الإِزَارِ فَإِنْ أَبَيْتَ فَأَسْفَلُ فَإِنْ أَبَيْتَ فَلاَ حَقَّ لِلإِزَارِ فِى الْكَعْبَيْنِ قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى هَذَا حَدِيثٌ حَسَنٌ صَحِيحٌ. - ترمذي حـ1705 ابن ماجه حـ3562 النسائي حـ5234

Huzaifa (ra) narrates the Blessed Prophet (saw) grabbed my shank and said: "This is the place of the izaar. If you refuse, then below this, and if you refuse this, then below that. If you refuse even this, there is no place for the izaar under the ankles."

عَنِ ابْنِ عُمَرَ قَالَ مَرَرْتُ عَلَى رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَفِى إِزَارِى اسْتِرْخَاءٌ فَقَالَ يَا عَبْدَ اللَّهِ ارْفَعْ إِزَارَكَ. فَرَفَعْتُهُ ثُمَّ قَالَ زِدْ . فَزِدْتُ فَمَا زِلْتُ أَتَحَرَّاهَا بَعْدُ . فَقَالَ بَعْضُ الْقَوْمِ إِلَى أَيْنَ فَقَالَ أَنْصَافِ السَّاقَيْنِ. - مسلم حـ3892 البخاري حـ3226

Ibn Omar (ra) narrates that: Once, I passed by the Blessed Prophet (saw) while my izaar was hanging below my ankles and he (saw) said: "Oh Abdullah! Lift your izaar." I lifted it some. He said, "More!" After that, I continued to strive in this. Some people asked, "To what extent are we to lift our izaar." He replied, "To halfway between the knees and ankles."

Once, the Blessed Prophet (saw) sent out the message of keeping the izaar above the ankles in a very peculiar manner. In a narration collected in Musnad Ahmed, Abdullah bin Omar (ra) says that "Once, I came by the Blessed Prophet (saw) when my izaar was hanging below my ankles. He (saw) looked at me and said, ‘Who are you?' [though, the Blessed Prophet (saw) knew Abdullah bin Omar (ra) very well, he feigned as if he did not know him because his izaar was hanging below his ankles.]
Abdullah bin Omar (ra) responded, "I am Abdullah." The Blessed Prophet (saw) replied, "If you truly are a servant of Allah (swt), then keep your izaar above your ankles."
Now, every Muslim who keeps his izaar below his ankles should see if he falls under the prophetic standard ‘if you are the servant of Allah (swt), then keep your izaar above your ankles' and judge for himself whether he is a servant of Allah (swt) or not. After this declaration, what excuse does he have for not lifting his izaar above his ankles?

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MessaggioInviato: Dom Mag 06, 2012 2:49 pm    Oggetto: Chiarimento Rispondi citando

Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatuLlahi wa barakatuhu

Questo mio primo intervento è per domandare un chiarimento sulla questione dei pantaloni sopra la caviglia.
Considerata l'importanza di cercare di seguire la Sunna anche nei suoi aspetti apparentemente esteriori c'è nel forum qualcosa sull'argomento tradotto già in italiano? Con la lingua francese non ho particolari problemi, ma con l'inglese non ci arrivo proprio.
Oppure è possibile avere anche una sommaria spiegazione da qualcuno?
Ringrazio anticipatamente i fratelli che potranno darmi una mano.
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'' Jamais un malheur ne m'a frappé sans que je remercie Allah pour quatre choses:

- Le fait que l'épreuve n'ait été plus grave,
- Le fait que l'épreuve ne concerne pas ma religion,
- Le fait que je serai rétribué pour l'avoir endurée,

et en pensant que rien ne compte après la mort du Prophète.

Et aussi je ne me soucie pas si je me réveille en état de suffisance ou de privation de joie ou de malheur, tant que je me suis réveillé Musulman. "
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Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatuLlahi wa barakatuhu

Questo mio primo intervento è per domandare un chiarimento sulla questione dei pantaloni sopra la caviglia.
Considerata l'importanza di cercare di seguire la Sunna anche nei suoi aspetti apparentemente esteriori c'è nel forum qualcosa sull'argomento tradotto già in italiano? Con la lingua francese non ho particolari problemi, ma con l'inglese non ci arrivo proprio.
Oppure è possibile avere anche una sommaria spiegazione da qualcuno?
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Wa `alaykum assalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh fratello,

C'è un articolo già in fase di traduzione sull'argomento.

Anticipando il "succo", in questo caso il fatto è che non si tratta "soltanto" di una "mera" Sunnah supererogatoria/facoltativa/opzionale/volontaria (

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); invece, ci sono molti ahadith nei quali il Profeta sallallaahu ordina ai Musulmani (maschi) di tenere i pantaloni sopra le caviglie.

Mentre altre Sunan, per quanto tutte assolutamente importanti, non hanno lo stesso statuto di obbligo - e quindi a non seguirle non si compierebbe un peccato - in questo caso invece, trattandosi di un comando, si tratta di una Sunnah (nel senso di pratica del Profeta sallallaahu) obbligatoria (wajib).
Così come è una Sunnah obbligatoria (wajib) lasciare crescere la barba di almeno un pugno.

Spero insha'Allah che la traduzione sia pronta presto, per maggiori dettagli.

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h_muslim ha scritto:
Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatuLlahi wa barakatuhu

Questo mio primo intervento è per domandare un chiarimento sulla questione dei pantaloni sopra la caviglia.
Considerata l'importanza di cercare di seguire la Sunna anche nei suoi aspetti apparentemente esteriori c'è nel forum qualcosa sull'argomento tradotto già in italiano? Con la lingua francese non ho particolari problemi, ma con l'inglese non ci arrivo proprio.
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Ringrazio anticipatamente i fratelli che potranno darmi una mano.
Jazakumu Allahu khairan


Wa `alaykum assalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh fratello,

C'è un articolo già in fase di traduzione sull'argomento.

Anticipando il "succo", in questo caso il fatto è che non si tratta "soltanto" di una "mera" Sunnah supererogatoria/facoltativa/opzionale/volontaria (

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); invece, ci sono molti ahadith nei quali il Profeta <img> ordina ai Musulmani (maschi) di tenere i pantaloni sopra le caviglie.

Mentre altre Sunan, per quanto tutte assolutamente importanti, non hanno lo stesso statuto di obbligo - e quindi a non seguirle non si compierebbe un peccato - in questo caso invece, trattandosi di un comando, si tratta di una Sunnah (nel senso di pratica del Profeta <img>) obbligatoria (wajib).
Così come è una Sunnah obbligatoria (wajib) lasciare crescere la barba di almeno un pugno.

Spero insha'Allah che la traduzione sia pronta presto, per maggiori dettagli.


Jazaka Allahu Khayran fratello per il lavoro che fai. Attendo in sha Allah la traduzione..

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- Le fait que l'épreuve ne concerne pas ma religion,
- Le fait que je serai rétribué pour l'avoir endurée,

et en pensant que rien ne compte après la mort du Prophète.

Et aussi je ne me soucie pas si je me réveille en état de suffisance ou de privation de joie ou de malheur, tant que je me suis réveillé Musulman. "
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[Muslims are inundated by a sort of post-colonial shame complex which seems to prevent them from adopting the sunnah in their outward dress. It is very sad that this sort of embarrassed-to-look-Muslim complex seems to have beat down our men much harder than our women, whose modesty is the pride of every believer, and whose hijab is indeed da'wah for everyone who sees it.

We need to get over the shame pressure which forces us to try to fit in, and own up to who we are: Muslims. Our role-model is the messenger of Allah, Muhammad, the chosen one, may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him. People say that the messenger of Allah just dressed like the Arabs dressed in his time, so we should do the same.

This is either ignorance or a lie from whoever says it, and possibly both. Our prophet's turban was not like that of the mushrikin, nor was his hat, sarong, shirt, cloak, or coat, to mention just a few things. In fact, he was noticeably different in his mubarak appearance than the people of jahiliyyah, the people of ignorance. He was different. He was special. He was the best of Allah's creation and the most beloved. He was the most beloved to Allah, and to the believers. He never worried about fitting in, because he brought something that was different. We are different. If we are not different and we do not bring something different, than what is the point of tiring ourselves and others with "islam" (as opposed to Islam) if we just want to come with our own brand of jahiliyyah?

Are you really so ashamed that you should look like a person of jannah? Will people make fun of you for wearing "flood-pants"? Those "flood-pants" are just another plank in the ark of the Sunnah. Build it. The flood is coming. Sayyiduna Nuh, may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him said to his people, when they would pass him building his ark and mock him, that one day he would mock and laugh at them. The sunnah is the ark. The flood is coming...
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'Isbaal' : Is Hanging Trousers Below the Ankles Impermissible Due to Pride? Answered by Mufti Mohammed Sajaad (of As-Suffa Institute)


Q)[/b] Is having it below the ankle in today's society that bad especially since wearing trousers/jeans (which go below the ankles) is normal? The ahadith prohibit wearing it with pride as doing anything with pride is haram. The majority of the fuqaha (including al-Nawawi, Ibn Hajar and the Hanafi jurists) have said to have it below the ankle without pride is makruh tanzihi/permissible with slight distaste. Only a few scholars have said otherwise e.g. Ibn Arabi al-Mailiki. This is from my reading anyway. So in this society when people wear it below the ankle is it convenient or even legally substantiated to condemn people for doing it?

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The idea that if a person does not have pride he can lower his garments below the ankles is incorrect. The truth is, with this ruling, regardless of whether a person has pride or not he must keep his garments above the ankles. Though, if accidentally and unintentionally they were to fall below the ankles there would be no sin upon the person (which also explains the hadith of Abu Bakr r.a.). However the ruling cannot be made to revolve around a person's own view about whether he has pride. This is because pride is a surreptitious thing.

A person who is afflicted with this evil spiritual disease will, not only will never acknowledge he has pride, in fact in many cases, he will not even know. It is simply silly to think an individual will be able to assert about himself that: Yes I am free of pride thus I can keep the garments below the ankles. Yet this is the bizarre consequence of holding this view. The reality is that the ruling about having the garment above the ankles is one in which the Sabab (apparent cause) has been treated like the Illah (real underlying cause). Just as in travel, the dispensation to shorten the prayer was obviously given due to hardship.

However, because it is difficult to always say when hardship is being met by the traveler, the cause for this ruling to shorten was not made the basis of this ruling, such that if a person did not find hardship, even when traveling a thousand miles, he could not shorten. Rather the apparent cause was made the cause for the ruling, namely travel. Thus wherever travel (48 miles) is found this ruling applies regardless of the extent of the hardship. (See Shaikh Taqi Uthmani's Takmilah Fath al-Mulhim, p122, vol.4)

Similarly, in the case of the ruling of having garments above the ankles, because it is highly difficult to tell if a person has pride in this act, its apparent cause (garments above the ankles) was made the ruling's cause- rather than the real underlying cause (pride). Thus, it will be sinful every time a person intentionally lets his garments go below the ankles. The very act of Isbal being outlawed in this manner also tells us that this act in itself is a cause of creating pride. Imam Ibn Hajr, in Fath al-Bari, Kitab al-Libas, p.324 vol.10, writes: "Lowering the garments below the ankles must bring dragging the garment and dragging the garment must bring with it pride even if the wearer does not intend pride (Khuyula). This meaning is supported by the hadith narrated by Ahmad bin Manee, "...The Messenger of Allah , peace and blessings upon him, said: 'Beware of dragging the garment, for indeed this is from pride.' "

[Imam] Ibn Hajr then narrates the following hadith that emphatically show this ruling is not restricted to when this act is done in pride:
[1] In a hadith from Imam Tabarani, whose chain is sound, which is emphatic in this ruling not being restricted to when this act is done in pride. Namely, "The Messenger of Allah , peace and blessings upon him, struck four fingers of his hand below the knee (on the shin) and said: "O Amar (bin Zurarah)! this is the place of the garment." After citing this hadith, Imam Ibn Hajr writes: "It is obvious the aforementioned Amar did not intend pride in lowering his garment." [2] Also narrated by Tabarani, the Prophet, peace and blessing upon him, saw a man whose garments were below the ankles, he ordered him: "Raise your waist-wrap!" The man said: "I have an ailment in my legs; my knees collide with each other." He peace be upon him, replied: "Raise your garment because all of the creation of Allah is beautiful." Again, it is clear in this hadith this man was not doing this due to pride yet still he was ordered to raise his garments. [3] Ibn Majah, Nasai and Ibn Hibban narrate with a sound chain that: Mughirah ibn Shubah said: "I saw the Messenger of Allah , peace and blessings upon him, seized the wrap of Sufyan ibn Suhail, saying: 'O Sufyan do not lower garments below the ankles, verily Allah detests those who lower their garments below the ankles (Laa Tusbil fa-inna-allaha laa yuhibbu-l-Musbileen)."

All three hadith are recorded in Fath al-Bari. It would be incorrect to think that the majority of the scholars hold, as you mentioned, that it is fine to lower garments below the ankles if there is no pride in it. Similarly, it also wrong and misleading to suggest the ruling of Tahreem (unlawfulness) is peculiar to the Indian scholars. [Imam] Ibn Hajr, himself a prominent Shafi jurist, records that Imam Shafi's position is that under all circumstances it will forbidden to allow the garment to go below the ankles; except that if it is with the absence of pride the sin gained will be less. However, there will be the sin of resembling women as their garments are to be below the ankles. Imam Hakim, with a sound chain narrates: "The Messenger of Allah , peace and blessings be upon him, cursed the man who wears women's clothes" (Op cit). Similarly, the Maliki jurist Ibn al-Arabi, affirming the above explanation of the threat of pride, states: "It is not permitted for a man to allow his garment to go beyond his ankle saying: 'I am not doing it in pride.'

This is because the prohibition includes this by virtue of the wording. It is not permitted for a person who is being included in the ruling by the words (of a text) to say: 'I will not follow it because that reason (Illah) is not found in me,' for it is an unacceptable claim- rather his lowering his garment tells of his pride," (Op cit). Thus it will always be forbidden (Makruh Tahrimi) to allow the garment to go below the ankles and the Salah of a person in this manner will have to be repeated in its time. Although Shaikh Faraz Rabbani cites Fataawa Hindiyya, for his view that it is Makruh tanzihi without pride, on the same page of this work, strong words are used against this practice.

It says on p.333 vol.5, that: "…lowering the waist wrap and the shirt below the ankles is a reprehensible innovation (Bidah). The garment should be above the ankles up to the middle of the shins." [After the initial reply was given to the question of the prohibition for men of lowering their garments, many questions were received questioning this ruling. The reply below is a second reply to answer these objections] The first point that was made was that this ruling is only so when done in pride.

This point was actually answered in the first reply, nevertheless more proofs can be cited to leave no doubt that this ruling is not suspended on the existence of pride. The basis of this objection is the hadith that forbid Isbal mention that it is blameworthy when done in pride. However, there are also many hadith that prohibit this act irrelevant of the reason, suggesting this is supposed to be the dress of the believer at all times. I will record below the many hadith that clearly tell us that this ruling was not restricted to pride:

i) The Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him), said: "There are three people Allah will not speak to on the Day of Judgement, nor will He look at them or purify them of their sins. For them will be a painful chastisement….The one who allows his garments to fall below the ankles, a person who recounts favours he has done to others and a person who sells his goods by a false oath." (Muslim)

ii) The Messenger of Allah , peace and blessings upon him, said: "Beware of lowering the garment for it is from pride and Allah detests pride…" (Tirmidhi)

This hadith tells us that actually this act in itself brings pride in a person.

iii) The hadith in Sunnan Abu Dawud, hadith no.638, Bab al-Isbal fi al-Salah: Abu Hurairah narrates that: "A man was praying with his garment below his ankles when the Messenger of Allah , peace and blessings upon him, said: 'Go and repeat your Wudu.' So the man went and did his Wudu and returned. The Messenger (peace and blessings upon him) again said: 'Go and repeat your Wudu.' So the man went and repeated his Wudu and returned. The man asked: 'O Messenger of Allah what is it that you told him to do Wudu (again) and then you did not say anything?' The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings upon him) said: 'He was praying with his garment below his ankles, verily Allah (may His mention be magnified) does not accept the prayer of a man who lowers his garments.' "
Some have challenged the authenticity of this hadith.
The fact is the hadith is sound and has also been narrated by Imam Bayhaqi in his Sunnan, vol.2 p342, Kitab Karahiyyat Isbal al-Izar fi-Salah. Imam Nawawi in Riyad al-Salihin has confirmed that it is Sahih, hadith no.797.

iv) The Messenger of Allah , peace and blessings upon him, said: "The waist-wrap of the Muslim must be up to the middle of the shins; and there is no harm if it goes between there and the ankles..." (Abu Dawud)

Also note that the Sahaba never thought this ruling was restricted to if done in pride; they thought this was in fact the dress of the believing men. It is for this reason that, as Shaikh al-Hadith Muhammad Zakariyya writes in Awjaz al-Masaalik, vol.14 p220, Umm Salamah r.a. brought up the issue with the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings upon him) having understood that the above hadith were not to be restricted to the case of pride, (i.e. this was the instructions for how dress in general should be) and as such applied to women as well. She asked the Messenger of Allah peace and blessings upon him) when he spoke about the lowering the garments, 'What about the woman O Messenger of Allah ?' This clearly shows she understood the condemnation for lowering the garment was general (Mutlaq) irrespective of pride. But she asked because women also had the order to cover their Awrah. He (peace and blessings be upon him) then elaborated for her that they were exempt from this ruling.

v) Ibn Umar r.a. narrates that: "I passed by the Messenger of Allah , peace and blessings be upon him, and my garment was loose, so he, peace and blessings upon him, said: 'O Abdullah raise your garment,' so I raised it. Then he said, 'more,' so I raised it more. Ever since then I have been vigilant regarding it." (Muslim)

It was also wrongly argued that the Hanafi school actually does not hold that garments for men must be above the ankles always. Rather it was claimed, they say, if a person does not do this in pride then it is considered to be merely Makruh Tanzihi. The evidence they have cited for this is the view of Imam Badr al-Din al-Ayni and the same is also written in Fataawa Hindiyyah.
The truth however is that in Umdat al-Qari, Imam Ayni, does not say this is the position of the Hanafi School. What can correctly be ascribed to Imam Al-Ayni are the following words explaining the heading in Sahih al-Bukhari: The Chapter of he who pulled his garment (below the ankles) without pride. Imam Ayni immediately after this wrote: "This chapter is to explain the ruling of that person who lowered his garment without the intention of pride, for there is no harm in it without any dislike…," vol.21 p295, Kitab al-Libas. Under the above heading the famous hadith in which Abu Bakr complains of his garment going below the ankles is mentioned, and in which the Prophet (peace and blessings upon him) says: "You are not from those who do it out of pride."
As can be seen from the context all that Imam Ayni is saying, which we of course accept, is that if unintentionally the garment goes below the ankles one need not worry that he has committed the great sin that lies in Isbal. But, this does not mean, and nor could it mean if the context is kept in view, that: A person is permitted to lower his garment if he thinks he is not doing it in pride. The second source some people have used to claim this erroneous view, that if a person does not do it in pride he is blameless, is Fataawa Hindiyyah. The text is also said to say without pride this act is Makruh Tanzihi. However again it seems this is a misrepresentation of the facts. In this work the text does say: "…If it is not done in pride then it is Makruh Tanzihi…," Ninth chapter on Clothing, vol.5 p333. Those who quote this however fail to mention that the very sentence before this said: "Raising up the garments is Sunna and lowering the garments below the ankles is a reprehensible innovation (Bidah).

The garment should be above the ankles up to half way of the shins..." This text is emphatic in stating the evil of this act and its being always impermissible. And, again one can clearly tell from the context, that the jurists mentioned the ruling of Tanzihi (which technically means there is no sin upon a person for doing that act), for that case when it is done unintentionally or for a need- to simply outline that there is no sin. As mentioned earlier one may not lower his garment without a need. To do so claiming that one does not have pride is simply distorting the Shariah.

For the best of generations, Sahaba, Tabi'een and Taba' Tabi'een, never ever played with the words of the hadith in this manner. Not one from them understood this ruling in this way such that a single one of them (though if anyone could be free of pride it was them) asserted, "I will keep my garments below the ankles as I am free of pride."
Had there been some leeway in this regard in the Shariah they would never have been so careful regarding it to the point that they would prevent others from doing it. Yet they appreciated more than us that one should have good opinions about others and not judge their intentions. In other words it was not just left to personal opinion about whether one had pride or not.
We see Umar r.a., having been fatally wounded, on his death bed stop a young man who had his garment below the ankles and commanded him to raise it. So how can this attitude be given any credence today? Especially, when we see many men today, not desiring to raise their garments above the ankles and looking down upon those who do. For them, it is obvious, the motivation in not raising their garments is shame, and the greater respect and prestige they feel in wearing the garments below the ankles, all of which is a symptom of that surreptitious disease called pride.
If the reason for this ruling was pride such that if it is done without it then there is no blame, then are we really saying our judgment about our internal state is better than that of the likes of Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman and Ali (r.a.) who all would keep their garments above their ankles?
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[Muslims are inundated by a sort of post-colonial shame complex which seems to prevent them from adopting the sunnah in their outward dress. It is very sad that this sort of embarrassed-to-look-Muslim complex seems to have beat down our men much harder than our women, whose modesty is the pride of every believer, and whose hijab is indeed da'wah for everyone who sees it.

We need to get over the shame pressure which forces us to try to fit in, and own up to who we are: Muslims. Our role-model is the messenger of Allah, Muhammad, the chosen one, may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him. People say that the messenger of Allah just dressed like the Arabs dressed in his time, so we should do the same.

This is either ignorance or a lie from whoever says it, and possibly both. Our prophet's turban was not like that of the mushrikin, nor was his hat, sarong, shirt, cloak, or coat, to mention just a few things. In fact, he was noticeably different in his mubarak appearance than the people of jahiliyyah, the people of ignorance. He was different. He was special. He was the best of Allah's creation and the most beloved. He was the most beloved to Allah, and to the believers. He never worried about fitting in, because he brought something that was different. We are different. If we are not different and we do not bring something different, than what is the point of tiring ourselves and others with "islam" (as opposed to Islam) if we just want to come with our own brand of jahiliyyah?

Are you really so ashamed that you should look like a person of jannah? Will people make fun of you for wearing "flood-pants"? Those "flood-pants" are just another plank in the ark of the Sunnah. Build it. The flood is coming. Sayyiduna Nuh, may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him said to his people, when they would pass him building his ark and mock him, that one day he would mock and laugh at them. The sunnah is the ark. The flood is coming...
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Jazakallahu khayran, è da tempo che pensavo di inserire questo post; già solo quest'introduzione di Shaykh Hamza vale un thread intero masha'Allah!

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Assalamu alaykum,

ho una dubbio, spero inshAllah qualcuno mi sappia rispondere.

Il post iniziale parla del fatto che i pantaloni - o comunque l'indumento che si indossa per coprire la parte sotto - non debba scendere sotto le caviglie.

Quindi, se un uomo mette la Jalabiya (quella lunga bianca intendo, spero si chiami così) e sotto mette un pigiama...solo il pigiama non deve superare le caviglie o anche la jalabiya?
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Quindi, se un uomo mette la Jalabiya (quella lunga bianca intendo, spero si chiami così) e sotto mette un pigiama...solo il pigiama non deve superare le caviglie o anche la jalabiya?


Wa`alaykum assalam warahmatullahi wabarakatuh,

Entrambi devono restare sopra le caviglie.

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Ma vale anche per la tunica. Infatti il profeta , saws, parlava di izar.


Per precisione, l'izar non è la "tunica" (qamis), bensì il tessuto (noto in urdu come lungi, in bahasa melayu come sarong, in somalo come Macawwis..) che si avvolge attorno alla vita e scende fino ai polpacci o a(prima de)lle caviglie:


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