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MessaggioInviato: Gio Gen 31, 2008 12:42 am    Oggetto: Fatwa sulla "Wahhabiyyah" Rispondi citando

Can you please explain who are Wahabies (is this a sect), are they also Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah?
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Question: I really would like to know who Wahabies are and what they believe in. I'am hanafi and was wondering what is the difference between us and them. Jazzakallahairun selam


Answer:
The Wahabis, who call themselves Salafis, are a group who had appeared in the last few centuries and hold beliefs contrary to the Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaa'ah.

They try to pull the wool over our eyes by affiliating themselves with the Salaf (Sahabah and Tabi'en) but in effect their beliefs and practices are completely in contradictory with those of the Salaf.

The Wahabis are in essence Mujassimah (anthropomorphists-Those who attribute a body to Allah Ta'ala).

They attribute a hand, leg, face etc to Allah Ta'ala, while the illustrious Ulama of the Ahlus sunnah wal Jama'ah hold fast to the belief that Allah knows best the meaning of these words.

Similar is the case with all the sifat (qualities) etc in the Quran ie. the Wahabis take them on there apparent meaning , claiming that interpreting the Quran is not permissible, while we say that Allah knows best what it means or at times we interpret it in a suitable manner.

- The Wahabis reject the permissibility of using a deceased person as a intermediary in dua, while we hold that it is permissible.

- The Wahabis reject the Ambiyaa being alive in their graves

- The Wahabis hold that Allah is really resting on His throne in the sky, while we hold that this is from the Mutashabihaat.(Those unclear statements hose meaning is only known to Allah).

- The Ulama of the Ahlus sunnah wal Jamaa'ah disagree with the destruction of numerous blessed historical landmarks by the Wahabis.

- The Ulama of the Ahlus sunnah wal Jamaa'ah hold that taqleed of one mazhab is necessary, while the Wahabis generally do not adhere to a mazhab and claim that following one imam blindly is Bidah and shirk.

-There are dozens of other differences.

The Wahabis are vehement opponents of the Asharis and Maaturidis, who constitute the Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jama'ah and are two groups whose beliefs are correct. They also vehemently oppose tawassuf.

It is necessary for us to be on our guard against them as they are very active propagators of their Baatil and false beliefs.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai

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MessaggioInviato: Gio Gen 31, 2008 6:30 pm    Oggetto: Rispondi citando

certo, egli contrasta la setta dei salafiti
ma non il wahabismo che ha pesantemente influenzato i tablighis che è lui.

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Question: Salam Mufti, I would like to know about the controversy surrounding Ibn AbdulWahhab. Do you think the Ottoman Caliph was right to send Muhammad Ali Pasha to stop the wahhabi fitna?

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Imam Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab

Imam Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab was born in the town of Uyaina to a highly
respected and religious family. In keeping with his family tradition, he
exhibited a keen interest in religion and was profoundly perturbed by
contemporary deviations from Islamic teachings which included serious
deviations from the teachings of the Prophet, ( Alayhi Wasallam).
He therefore undertook to bring about a revival of Islam in its simplest and
original form. Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab did not found a new sect. His sole
purpose was to re-establish Islam in its purest form
.

His forthright sermons led to his persecution. When he and his family were
driven out of Uyaina, Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab sought the protection of
Muhammad bin Saud, in Ad-Dar'iyah, the home of the House of Saud.

Muhammad bin Saud and Imam Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab found they had
interests in common, pre-eminently a desire to see all the Arabs of the
Peninsula brought back to Islam in its simplest and purest form. In 1744,
they therefore took an oath that they would work together to achieve this
end. Muhammad bin Saud's son, Abdul Aziz, married the daughter of Imam
Muhammad. Thus, with an oath and a marriage, the two leaders sealed a pact
between their families which has lasted through the centuries to the present
day.

Imam Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab died in 1792.


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Question: However, Imam Ibn Abidin (d.1252AH) says in his book, Hashiya radd al-muhtar ‘ala al-Durr al-mukhtar sharh Tanwir al-absar, that the Wahhabis were considered as Khwarij. This is because they rebelled against the Caliph and started killing Sunnis, just because they thought that by practising tawassul, the people were actually worshipping the Prophet (aleyhi salam). Even today, their now dead propagandists were spreading Wahhabism, such as Albani and Uthaymin. They regard the Asharis as the same as the Jahmiyya. They say that Allahu Ta’ala is sitting “in person” on the throne (Muslim’s Belief, by Uthaymin), even though Ibn Jawzi (d.597AH) rejected such statements as “sitting on the throne in person” as heresy in his book, Daf‘ shubah al-tashbih bi akaff al-tanzih. Uthaymin also states in his book that Allah has 2 eyes! Also is it not true that Ibn Hajar Haytami (d.974AH) stated in his Fatawa al-hadithiyya that the Sunnis are the Ashari/Maturidis, whereas the Wahhabis condemn Ashari/Maturidi beliefs because we do not ascribe direction to Allah. What about the Ahadith of the dissension from the Najd by a group of muslims who shave their heads (Khwarij never did this, Wahhabis were the first to practise this) and regard other muslims as mushrikeen.

Answer:

While the present day Salafis are corrupt, it would not be just to attribute
their views to ibn Abdul-Wahhaab
. Refer attached.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai

Shaikh Muhammad Ibn-'Abd-Al- Wahh'ab (1703 - 1792) And Wahh'abism: Historical Justice Needed

The eighteenth century was an era of Western colonial expansionism. The entire Muslim World was groaning under the iron heels of the European colonialists. The mighty Ottoman Empire was heading towards a collapse. Muslim society suffered from superstitions, pagan practices, heretical innovations and apostatical leanings. The concept of pure and uncompromising Tawhid (monotheism) got mixed up with polytheism. Hijaz, the land of two sanctuaries of Islam, was no exception. The whole of the Arabian Peninsula was under the grip of superstitions and Jahiliya practices. Najd, the central part of the Peninsula, had also lapsed into pre-Islamic heathenism. Despite such a gloomy picture, the reformative impulse was always active and operational.

Religio-Cultural And Political Milieu Of Najd Before The Shaikh
Bedouin Arabia had slipped into ignorance, barbarism, bloodletting, discord and corruption. Religion was perverted and the socioeconomic and cultural life was paralysed. Few God-fearing 'Ulama' were combating the heathen beliefs and practices, such as stone, tree and grave worship. The state of affairs in Najd was awful:
"... They called upon idols and sought their intercession and aid, offered sacrifices to stones and rocks and trees in the belief that these possess the power to bring good and ward off evil, and so people sought their pleasure and approbation through
offerings .....” (Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhaab; Ahmad Abdul Ghafur)

The Najdians used to consult the soothsayers and oracles as if they were the successors of Al-Ablak al-Saadi, the famous oracle of pagan Najd. It resembled the practices of the Quraish before Islam. The life of Bedouins in the desert of Najd, as well as in its cities and villages, were characterised by lawlessness, bestiality, mad and brute freedom which was bound to let the society loose in ignorance, wickedness and political tyranny of the Amirs and Governors.

Bedouins assaulted the travellers and caravans and killed innocent men and women. Assassins fell upon villages and towns during day and night. They would plunder towns, kill and enslave people and kidnap children and infants to sell them into slavery. Since there was no strong ruler to ensure peace and security and since petty states were ruled by absolute tyrants, devoid of Islamic spirit, public safety was non-existent. The devilish and wicked rulers and leaders hired criminals to kill the 'Ulama' who were preaching the truth of Islam or were frightening the people with the punishments of the Hereafter. The 'Ulama', judges, notables, preachers and guides of Al-Kasim were killed in 1196 A.H., without discrimination. A conference was convened by the criminals to decide the fate of all those who preached reform. The unanimous decision of the conference was:

"... to get rid of the 'Ulama' by murder and every town and village would slay its 'Ulama' in a single day ... "

Thus on the specified day the 'Ulama'and learned men in every town and village were killed. It was on Friday that the 'Ulama' of Al-Khabra, and Al-Janah were slain when they were going to the mosque for their Friday prayers. Other towns and villages followed Suit.

Shaikh Husain ibn-Ghannam has recorded numerous tragedies of a similar nature in his famous book 'Rawdat al-Afkar wal-Afham' which mirrors the contemporary life in Najd. He shows how the Najdians had slipped into polytheism and heathenism and worshipped deities other than Allah, "calling them for protection in distress and invoking them to provide sustenance, and ward off evil and bring good". There was a general belief that certain shrines, domes, stones and trees possessed the power to harm and protect people. The famous palm tree called "al-Fahhal" in Bleida was worshipped by men and women who would call on it to provide sustenance, lighten their distress and cure their sicknesses. The women would invoke its help and ask it to give her a husband or a child. The tree of 'Tarjiya' was worshipped in the same way. The women begetting a male child would hang a rope or a piece of cloth on the tree, asking it to grant a long life to the child. The branches, leaves and stems of the tree was not visible because they were covered by piles of ropes and pieces of cloth. The cave, situated in the hill of Dar'iya, was the centre of pilgrimage. It was claimed that the cave was the grave of the daughter of a Prince. She was a great female saint. People invoked her for aid. (Ibid)

"The story was invented by a deceiver to lead people astray and to extort money through jugglery" (Ibid)

Similarly, a blind man was being worshipped after his death. To him was attributed great Karamat. There was hardly a city where tombs and graves were not worshipped. Special mosques were venerated and visited as objects of pilgrimage. People invoked succour and offered sacrifices on them. Islam as religion was forsaken and its teachings forgotten.

The Amirs and rulers, being totally ignorant of the laws of Allah, were blinded by lust, prejudices and mad impulses, slaying people without reason, and plundering their houses and lands. Wars were rampant among the tribal chiefs and Amirs who would enslave women and sell them for adultery. The savage bestiality swayed supreme. The two families, comparatively better in administering justice, were the rulers of Dar'iya and 'Uyaina. The former was ruled by the Sa'ud family while the latter was under the rule of the family of Muammar. They were religiously orientated. Other parts of the country were governed by tyrants and despots. Riad was ruled by Daham ibn-Dawas, a tyrant and hypocrite of the first order, who would sew the mouths of women, cut the tongues of innocent people, break their teeth and slash flesh from their bodies and force them to eat their own flesh after being roasted. He was a peerless brute, whose sports was nothing but pillage, plunder and aggression.

The economic life was as corrupt as was the religio-cultural life. Piracy and plunder had paralysed the trade routes and liquidated the import and export of merchandise. Agriculture perished due to the extortion of the tyrant rulers who would burn standing crops. Thus anarchy and famine prevailed, raiding, robbery and murders continued, and lust and ambitions swayed supreme. Moral and educational life was almost non-existent. Righteous 'Ulama' were resented and reformists were slain

The Advent Of The Shaikh:
It was in the background of such pitch darkness that Shaikh Muhammad ibn-'Abd-al-Wahhab appeared on the scene and started his Da'wa work. He was full of hope and promise and dispelled the clouds of gloom and frustration that had engulfed the souls of people. He revived the concept of pure Tawhid (monotheism) and called people to return to pristine Islam - the Quran and the Sunna. He launched his movement with full vigour and resolved to cut the roots of heathenism, superstitions and heretical innovations with the sharp scissor of Tawhid. Ruthless battles with the formidable adversaries had to follow and migration and persecutions were in store for the Shaikh. Had there been no protection of Allah descending on the Shaikh, he would have perished.

The rise of the Tawhid Movement, threatened the rulers politically and the 'Ulamaa` as-Su`’ (evil-minded religious scholars), religiously. The Ottoman Empire got frightened and hastened to liquidate the movement through military operations. 'Ibrahim Pasha, the son of Muhammad 'Ali, the Turkish governor of Egypt, was sent to crush the movement which he did in April 1818, when Dar'iya was raised to the ground and men and women, old and young and infants were slain. Amir 'Abd-Allah, the Sa'udi ruler of Dar'iya, was arrested and sent to Turkey via Egypt, where he was executed at the Aya Sofia Square with humiliation. His companions were also executed in Turkey.

A Profile Of The Shaikh:
The Shaikh, who descended from a noble family - the Musharraf - a branch of Banu-Tamim, was born in 1703/1115 in the family of learned 'Ulama'. His father 'Abd-al-Wahhab himself was a great Jurist, 'Alim and a chief Qadi (Judge) of Dar'iya. He personally taught his son all the sciences of Islamic learning. He learnt the Qur'aan by heart while still a child. His brilliance and good memory helped him to cut short the years of study. By the age of twenty, he excelled all the 'Ulama' of his town. Since his movement involved his whole family in open hostility leading to the use of force by the adversaries, his father had to migrate in 1139 from 'Uyaina to Huraimila, along with his family. The Shaikh resolved to stay behind and promote his Da'wa. The 'Ulamaa` as-Su`’ started refuting him and instigated people to rise against him, ridicule, abuse and insult him. The opposition reached such a passe that the Shaikh had to migrate from his hometown 'Uyaina', so that the fire of discord kindled by the opponents, could be extinguished. He went to Mecca and Madina for higher education and for the promotion of his mission. Many 'Ulama' in Mecca and Madina supported his Da'wa. He studied under the 'Ulama' of Madina, especially under Shaikh Ibn-Saif who initiated him to study Imaam Ahmad ibn-Hanbal, and the Sihah Sitta, the six famous compilations of Hadith. The Shaikh launched his Da'wa in the holy cities which were also under the grip of un-Islamic practices. One day he was shocked when he saw painful scenes in front of the tomb of the Holy Prophet (SAW), and he decided to emancipate people from acts which were forbidden even by the Holy Prophet (S.A.W.) himself. After having finished his education in Madina he returned to Najd and survived the ordeals that he had to face during the course of his journey from Madina to Najd via Basra, az-Zubair and al-Ahsa. He reached Huraimila where his parents lived. His father pledged his support, help and protection to the son and encouraged him to carry on with his call. The 'Ulama' of Huraimila rose against the Shaikh and instigated the rank and file to stiffen their resistance to his call and murder the Shaikh.

The Shaikh left his parents and reached 'Uyaina where he was welcomed by the Amir, 'Uthman-ibn-Mu'ammar, who lent all his support to the Shaikh and gave the daughter of 'Abd-Allah ibn-Mu'ammar into his marriage. The matrimonial relations helped the Shaikh in the promotion of his Da'wa. Now people of 'Uyaina, in addition to people of Huraimila, Riad and Dar'iya also joined the Shaikh in his noble mission.

The Da'wa In Action:
The Shaikh started teaching people the Qur’aan, and Hadith and the concept of Tawhid and invited them to return to pristine Islam and renounce the idolatrous cult. The first acid test of public faith appeared when the Shaikh invited them to pull down the gigantic sacred tree at 'Uyaina and to demolish the idols that were worshipped by them. People were scared to do so because they feared that some divine curse would befall them soon after the act was committed. The tree was, however, pulled down and the idols were removed. People's faith was strengthened in the call of the Shaikh when no curse descended upon them after the tree was cut off. They were spellbound with amazement.

There was still another test to follow, namely, the demolition of the dome from the tomb of a grave, which was ascribed to Zaid ibn-al-Khattab, situated at Gubaila. Scholars do hold that the said grave has not yet been located by archaeologists. The supposed grave was a centre of pilgrimage, where people committed idolatrous acts. It was, however, demolished in the presence of the ruler of 'Uyaina. The tomb was a means of earning a living. The ruler himself took part in its demolition. People were now more scared of divine afflictions and chastisement of the town that had to follow after such acts of desecration. But their faith was further strengthened when they saw that no affliction descended on them from the heavens. Consequently, people followed the call of the Shaikh in large numbers. 'Uyaina and its suburbs were cleared from such trees, stones and domes.

The news of the success of the Shaikh and of the support given to him by the ruler of 'Uyaina alarmed other tyrant rulers who were afraid of losing their political power. The rulers of Najd and Al-Ahsa' made an alliance to destroy the movement as soon as possible. The ruler of Al-Ahsa' asked the Amir of 'Uyaina to suspend his support and present himself to Al-Ahsa', which he did not comply with. The ruler of Al-Ahsa' stirred a revolt against the Shaikh in order to expel him from 'Uyaina. He succeeded in doing so. The Shaikh left his hometown and reached Dar'iya, which was destined to become the cradle of the immortal Tawhid movement. Ibn-Sa'ud, the Amir of Dar'iya, lent his full support to the Da'wa of the Shaikh and protected and promoted the call. The town and its people were now transformed from darkness unto light and from ignorance to knowledge. The Shaikh gave lessons in the Holy Book, the Hadith and other Islamic 'Ulum in the famous hall Dar-an-Nadwa'. Mosques were filled with the youth. The envious 'Ulamd' could not see the scene and branded the Shaikh as soothsayer, sorcerer and false pretender and charged him with trickery and charlatanry. Some of them charged him of being a heretic, an unbeliever and a lying sorcerer. The Shaikh, however, exercised maximum forbearance for his sufferings at the hands of the clergy and the laity and endured the mischief they inflicted upon him. He simply prayed to Allah for the guidance of the opponents. Forbearance and fortitude became the elements of his sterling character and pattern of behaviour.

An unholy alliance, against the Shaikh, was made between the rulers of Riad, Al-Katif and Basra. The 'Ulamaa` as-Su`’ joined them. The most determined and vehement enemies of the call were the Ulama' of Najd. Muhammad ibn-Sahim and his son Ibrahim were among them. Daham ibn-Dawas, the Amirr of Riad, and Sulaiman, the Amir of Al-Ahsa', the absolute tyrants, launched their offensive and militant crusades against the Da'wa. The war between Daham, the ruler of Riad and Ibn-Sa'ud, the ruler of Dar'iya, who was the protector of the Da'wa of Tawhid, raged for about twenty seven years, but to no avail. The Amir of Al-Ahsa', another sworn enemy of the Shaikh, approached various tribes to join him. Their combined armies swarmed the plains and heights of the desert as never witnessed before. The tribes had joined him in lure of plunder and booty. They unleashed their tyrannies, by killing the followers of the Shaikh. In 1188, he destroyed their towns, and burnt their homes. He wanted to march on Dar'iya but his sudden death in 1188 stopped him from his brute ambitions and after his death the opposition could not survive any more.

The failures and discomfiture of the opponents became a source of strength to the Shaikh and his Da'wa and helped him to gain more adherents. The call reached the soil of Iraq, Syria and Hijaz. The call survived and brought radical transformation in the religious, intellectual and political life of the Umma. Now the 'Ulama' were divided into two camps, those who supported the Da'wa and those who opposed it vehemently.

The Wahhabi-Sa'udi Rule:
Since there was no separation between religion and state in Islam and since the state was supposed to enforce the laws of Islam as ordained by Divine Revelation and the Hadith, the Sa'udi rulers of Dar'iya, accepted the call of the Shaikh in letter and spirit and the new state was in fact a Wahhabi-Sa'udi State, promoting justice, truth, righteousness and happiness for the people. The Shaikh himself did not assume any power. He merely motivated the Sa'udi rulers to enforce canonical law and guided them towards Islamic justice. He gave his judgements in disputes in regard to religio-political conflicts or treaties signed between States. He worked both as a religio-social reformer as well as a political leader with vision, insight and acumen. He did not live in isolation from the society or political affairs of the state. The Shaikh and Ibn-Sa'ud acted in perfect harmony because they were on the same wave length of ideas.The harmony reached to such an extent that the Sa'udi rulers could not decide anything without consulting the Shaikh. Even his decisions on war and peace were accepted by the rulers. Thus the government of Dar'iya - was the first Islamic state in the eighteenth century - that was run jointly by the Sa'udi and Wahhabi" leaders.

The Da'wa of the Shaikh succeeded so rapidly because it had a political power and executive authority at its back. Despite hostile assaults, wars for decades, the Da'wa emerged triumphant and the Shaikh saw the fruits of his sacrifice during his own lifetime. The Shaikh, who started his Tawhi'd movement when he was only twenty years old or even less, was happy at heart for he had established the Islamic commonwealth at Dar'iya and had restored the Islamic life-style. After having achieved his mission, the Shaikh surrendered himself to the call of his Creator and passed away in 1792/1206. The news of his demise engulfed the souls of Muslims with sadness, sorrow and grief. Great 'Ulama' mourned the demise in elegiac odes. His message, however, reached Asia, Africa and Europe. One can see the hands of the Shaikh moving in the present resurgence of Islam throughout the Muslim World. It is, however, the saddest episode in the history of Islamic movement that the same Sa'udis who had promoted the call in the beginning have forgotten it today and have slipped into luxuries and are entrapped into the cobwebs of the Superpowers.

Militant Crusade Launched By The 'Ulama':
The 'Ulama', as alluded to repeatedly, constituted a united front in exciting the states and the public against the Shaikh. Since the Shaikh did not believe in verbal exhortation and guidance and since he was a political positivist, and took part in battles along with Ibn- Sa'ud, he was suspected, disliked and disowned by the 'Ulama' who had accepted gladly the divorce between religion and politics or the state. The Shaikh believed that Islam needed political authority in order to uphold and support the commandments of the Qur’aan and the Sunna. The Shaikh neither introduced any new doctrine nor invented a new creed in Islam. Revival of the concept of Tawhid and renunciation of heathen practices was the core of his call. Scholastic

Disputes Disowned:
Despite insurmountable obstacles blocking the way as fetters on his movement, he clung fast to the Qur’aan and the Sunna. He died as a poor man. The great Imaams of Islam, such as Imaam Ahmad ibn Hanbal of Madina, Imaam Ibn-Taimiya and Imaam ibn-Qayyim al-Jawzi, served as inspirational sources for him in the field of reform and reconstruction of the Muslim society which had relapsed into heathenism and had drifted rapidly from its pristine origins. The Shaikh adopted the Qur'anic method in proving and reviving the concept of Tawhid and rejected the scholastic methodology of Greek logic and dialectics that were adopted by some Muslim scholastic theologians (Mutakallimin). Revelation and not logic or empiricism, according to him was the sole guide in metaphysical affairs ('Ilm al-Ilahiyat). He believed that the method of the Qur’aan in regard to the assertion or negation of metaphysical issues and in arguing with disbelievers and sceptics was enough for the defence of the Islamic standpoint. Greek logic or dialectics aimed merely at defeating the opponents, rightly or wrongly, through false wrangling. The method adopted by him in proving the existence of God and His indivisible Unity was purely Qur'aanic. The reply given by him to Shaikh Ibn Sahim, is self-explanatory. Questions related to the Being or the Nature of God, (Zat and Sifat) such as, whether God is a substance, a body or an accident, were debated by the philosophers and scholastic theologians. Imaam Ahmad ibn-Hanbal argued that the Qur’aan and the Sunna, rather than logic and speculative philosophy of the Greeks, were the sole guides for the Muslims in this regard.

The same view was endorsed by the Shaikh. Since scholastic theologians were not the real 'Ulama' of Islam, they had introduced erroneous doctrines that were based on Greek rationalism. They were disowned and denounced by all classical 'Ulama' of Islam. The Shaikh answered the queries that were made by Shaikh 'Abd-al-Latif of Al-Ahsa' in the same strain. He was well aware of the Ahadith in which the Holy Prophet (SAW) had warned the Muslim Umma not to get involved in speculative conjectures in regard to metaphysical issues, such as the essence of and attributes of God, (Zat and Sifat of Allah), predestination and the like, for previous nations lost their way due to such futile discourses; the Muslim Ummah had to follow as it was commanded by the Qur’aan and the Ahaadith. Muslims were dissuaded from discussing topics of no avail. The companions of the Prophet (SAW) followed the course prescribed by the Holy Prophet. The Shaikh followed the Ahaadith in letter and spirit and attacked the Mutakallimin who were ignorant of the evil consequences of 'Ilm al-Kalam and advised them to follow the path laid down by the Holy Prophet.

Waves Of Allegations:
Despite such orthodox faith in the Qurdn and Hadith, the Shaikh was branded by the 'Ulama' as an unbeliever, who regarded all Muslims as infidels, save his own followers. It was alleged that he did not believe in reciting Darood and Salaam on the Prophet and prevented people from doing so. Moreover, he prevented them from visiting the mausoleum of the Holy Prophet (S.A.W.). All such charges were refuted by the Shaikh in his books, letters and discourses.

His response to the queries made by Shaikh 'Abd-ar-Rahman as-Suwaidi of Iraq, is illuminating. He asserted that he neither regarded any Muslim as apostate nor condemned their marriages as invalid. Neither had he ever thought of pulling down the dome of the Holy Prophet, nor to bring any change in the Kaba. These, he asserted, were blatant lies. He, however, advised people to read the Qur’aan instead of books like Dalaa'il al-Khairat. A similar reply was sent to 'Abd-Allah ibn-Sahim in response to his twelve questions addressed to the Shaikh. He rejected the allegation that he was at war with the 'Ulama'. On the contrary, he invited people to follow the rightly guided 'Ulama' of Islam. The domes that were demolished were not the result of desecration of holy shrines but because they were converted into centres of corruption and above all money-making complexes, which corrupted and enfeebled the faith (Aqaaid) of people. The Holy Prophet (S.A.W.) was the first to dismantle the centres of idolatry and priesthood and to ask people to turn to Allah alone and ask Him for Bounties or Favours instead of asking the stones and idols. His mission was, the Shaikh asserted, the revival of the same message. But no amount of explanation could satisfy the 'Ulama' who framed new stories and coined new phrases. It was alleged that Wahhabism and the sword go together and they were inseparable. Thus lies were ascribed to the Shaikh and his Tawhid movement, every now and then. He was intensely detested by the 'Ulama'. His statements and writings were tampered with in order to deceive the innocent public, who were the victims of 'Ulamaa` as-Su`’.

Examples of the Prophet were followed by the Shaikh. The Holy Prophet himself had ordered the pulling down of a tree called 'Dhat Anwat', on which polytheists used to hang their arms and worship it. This analogy did not convince the theologians who charged the Shaikh of disrespecting the Holy Prophet. The truth is that the Shaikh rarely mentioned the name of the Holy Prophet without having recited the Darood and Salam on him.

The 'Ulama' who ignited both the rulers and the public were in fact, court-'Ulama', patronised by the rulers and Amirs. They were afraid of losing face in the public if people were acquainted with the truth of the Tawhid movement, the most powerful emancipating and liberating force from all earthly bondages and mundane loyalties. Consequently, they sowed the seed of discord among the Muslims, instilled hatred and hostility in their hearts against the Da'wa of the Shaikh. The passions of the public, stirred by the 'Ulama' rose so high that they were ready to assassinate the Shaikh. The Sharif of Mecca - Ghalib ibn-Sa'id (1204), hastened to ask 'Abd-al-Aziz-ibn-Sa'ud, the Amir of Dar'iya to send to him some of the learned Wahhabi 'Ulama' in order to clear the mist of mistrust and suspicions befogging the climate about the credentials of the movement. The son of the Shaikh was sent to Mecca with a special message from the Shaikh which is worth reading.

It was also alleged that the Shaikh was very harsh in his Da'wa works. The fact is that the Shaikh in his 'Sadir', advised his followers to be kind, and patient in Da'wa work. He cannot be held responsible for the harshness of some of his followers who were prone to such behaviour due to their Bedouin temperament. The Shaikh explained his views in regard to intercession and made it clear that he believed in the intercession of the Holy Prophet on the Day of Resurrection. Authentic books, such as 'Al-Tawassul wal-Wasila' by Ibn-Taimiya and 'Ad-Dur an-Nadir'by Imaam Shawkaani, were also cited by him. He finally quoted the Qur'anic verse: "... Those whom you call on, themselves desire nearness to Allah, which of them shall be nearer to Allah.”

He further explained the Qur'anic injunctions in which Allah says that all intercessions belonged to Him and He alone will grant permission for intercessions. The Holy Prophet was granted the right to intercede. The chapter on intercession in his "Kitab at-Tawhid' is quite elaborate. Ibn-Taimiya had divided intercession into six categories. The Shaikh also discussed the visit to the graves in the light of Ahadith. Ibn-Qayyim made an express statement in the following words: "Among evil practices are using them (tombs) as religious festivals, performing prayers in them, walking round them, kissing them and touching them, rubbing the face against the dust, worshipping persons buried in them, making supplication to them and calling on them for sustenance, health, repayment of debts, alleviation of distress, aid to the needy, and other things such as idolaters used to ask their idols"

Ibn-Taimiya, in his 'Al-Tawassul wal-Wasila' wrote that: “Numerous are the traditions telling that the Prophet forbade using tombs as mosques and cursed anyone who does so, and forbade using his grave as a religious festival, for polytheism first started among the people of Noah.”

The Shaikh was not different in his message from those of Ibn-Qayyim or Ibn-Taimiya.

From Hostility To Compromise:
The mighty forces rallied against Wahhabism, in and outside of the Arabian Peninsula, could no longer afford to battle against it, either through the pen or the swords. They had to seek compromise and accommodation. The British had already exploited and abused the term of Wahhabism, in order to divide Muslims and rule over them. They had hired religious scholarship in order to produce books against the movement. Syed Ahmad Shahid of Baraili and his movement were branded as Wahhabi movements in the Indo-Pak Subcontinent and gave a brutal blow to his Jihad movements in Balakot in 1831. The Turkish Khilafat, already cracking down, used the term as a source of hate in the Arab and non-Arab world and smeared its good name. They also hired such 'Ulama' who could issue religious decrees of infidelity (Fatwa of Kufr). It was propagated that Wahhabism was a movement of assassins and of unbelievers.

The offensive tides started receding only when progressive 'Ulama' and theologians began to write articles on the movement and evaluated the Shaikh as a great religious reformer and political leader that the eighteenth century had produced. They defended the movement and attacked the Arab rulers who had liquidated it in their countries. Muhammad Kurd 'Ali, a renowned Syrian scholar, wrote his famous article entitled "The Origins of Wahhabism" in the monthly 'Al-Muqtattaf' in 1901/1318, reproduced in his book entitled 'The Old and The New', printed in Egypt in 1925/1343. The movement was favourably evaluated and false accusations were dismissed. Dr. Taha Husain, a well known Egyptian scholar and stylist, changed the climate when he evaluated the movement highly and wrote an article in 'Al-Hilal' in March 1933, about the literary life in the Arabian Peninsula. He rejected the views of Al-Azhar about the Shaikh, and regarded the movement as a great Islamic movement in the Middle East, which liberated the Arabian Peninsula from heathenism and emancipated them from Jahiliyya practices and brought the Bedouins back into Islam, as the Holy Prophet had done in his own time. He concluded by saying: "Had the Turks and Egyptians not made common cause to combat this doctrine and did not combat it in its homeland with force and arm, never known before to the people of the desert, it would have been very probable that this doctrine could have united the Arabs in the twelfth and the thirteenth centuries, just as the advent of Islam had united them in the first century. It awakened the Arab soul and presented it with the lofty ideal it loved."

These statements captured the imagination of the Arab youth who were enchanted with the magical prose style of Taha Husain (1889 - 1973). They were emancipated from both hate and hostility towards Wahhabism, that they had inherited from their elders. 'Abbas Mahmud al-'Aqqad, (1882 - 1964), Muhammad Abduh (d. 1905), Rashid Rida and Ahmad Amin rejected the prejudiced approach and regarded it as a great Islamic movement in the eighteenth century.

The impact of the movement reached beyond the confines of the Arabian Peninsula. The whole of the Islamic World, whether in Asia, Africa or Europe, was influenced by its reform movements. Al-‘Aqqad remarked that the Hajj pilgrims imported the revolutionary message to Iraq, Sudan, India and other distant parts of the world, such as China, Java, Indonesia and Africa. The African leaders, such as Ahmad Bello of Nigeria, killed in 1966 for his Islamic commitment and reform impulse, was influenced by the movement. The Shaikh can be bracketted along with Shah Wali-AllAh, Jamal ad-Din al-Afghani, and Syed Ahmad Shahid of Baraili.

European Colonialists and Wahhabism:
The movement of Tawhid (pure monotheism), launched by Muhammad-ibn-'Abd-al-Wahhab, was slandered and maligned by the Europeans as well. The very term "Wahhabism" or "Wahhabiya", coined by them had malicious designs. It intended to prove that the movement was nonconformist and was out of the pale of Islam. This forgery was hatched by the English, the Turks and the Egyptians. It was unfortunate to note that for the last two centuries, all resurgent or reformist movements initiated in the Muslim World, are being branded by the Orientalists as "Wahhabi Movement", in order to discourage the revival of Islam or Islamisation of the Muslim lands. The colonial powers were afraid of any kind of Islamic revival or of Jihad movement in Muslim lands colonised by them. They connected all Islamic reformist movements with Wahhabism. Since the Sanusi Jihad Movement of North Africa (al-Maghrib) had challenged the Italian colonialists and wanted to expel them from North Africa, the Italian Orientalists linked the Sanusi' movement with Wahhabism. Similarly, the English colonialists, being challenged by the Jihad Movement of Syed Ahmad Shahid, branded his Jihad movement as the replica of Wahhabism. The truth is that the latter was never influenced by the former. Logically speaking, the movement of Muhammad should have been called either "Muhammadis" or "Muhammadiyun" rather than “Wahhabiyun", related to the name of his father 'Abd-al-Wahhab.

The European Travellers And Writers On Wahhabism:
The Orientalists tried to confuse people about the founder of the movement. H.J. Bryges, in his "Wahhabiya", regarded 'Abd-al-Wahhab as the founder of the movement and W.W. Hunter declared 'Abd-Allah, the son of Muhammad, as his grandson (Hafid). The earliest traveller of Bedouin Arabia, Caresten Nie Bury, believed in Bryges' theory and wrote that Muhammad was opposed to the movement of his father. He wrote it in 1764 when Muhammad was alive and was leading his movement. He died twenty eight years later. A Christian clergy regarded the movement as a new religion. He asserted that Ibn-Taimiya, who proclaimed himself a Hanbali, was in fact a "Wahhabi”. Can there be a statement more ridiculous than this? This was either a gross ignorance or wilful distortion. How could ibn-Taimiya be a follower of the Wahhabi Movement which emerged four hundred years after his death? How could ibn-Taimiya then be regarded as a Wahhabi?

It is not certain as to who invented the term "Wahhabi” and when. It is, however, certain that the term was used during the lifetime of Muhammad. The term was used frequently during the First World War.

The travellers started mentioning the movement immediately after the death of Muhammad 'Ali Beg (1807) and N. Burkhardt (1814) who visited Arabia before and after the invasion of Dar'iya by Muhammad 'Ali of Egypt. The latter wrote his books in 1816, entitl ed: 'Notes on the Bedouins and the Wahhabis', 1831 and frequently used the term 'Wahhabi’ in Volume two. The famous Egyptian historian 'Abd-ar-Rahman al-Jabarti, who wrote his history in 1238, also referred to the term in his third volume.

Caresten Nie Bury, the first traveller of Arabia, who set out from Denmark in 1761 along with his companions and reached Yemen in 1762, has recorded some of his observations in his book 'Travels Through Arabia and other Countries in the East'. Since he could not visit Najd he had to depend on secondary sources for his information about Muhammad, which led him to erratic judgements. His work was translated by Robert Heren and published in Edinburgh in 1792. Harford Jone Bryges, an English governor of Basra (1784 - 1794) and of Baghdad (1797 - 1806), in his 'Brief History of the Wahhabys', has furnished some valuable information. But his accounts are also based on N. Burkhardt who visited Hijaz in 1814 and wrote 'Notes on the Bedoins and the Wahhabys', published in two volumes in 1829 and 1831 respectively. The work of Bryges, which appeared in London in 1834 was, therefore, not based on primary experience.

No account of the Shaikh and his movement, furnished by the Europeans, was fair and objective. Grifford Paigrave, in his 'Narrative of a Year's Journey through Central and Eastern Arabia' (1862 - 1863), has slandered Islam in general and Muhammad and his movement of Tawhid in Najd, in particular. G. Percy Bedger, in his 'Imaams and Syeds of Oman' (London 1871), and Ch. M. Doughty, in his 'Travels in Arabia Deserta' (1875), have mentioned nothing worthwhile. Wilfred Scawn Blint, who visited Najd in 1879, in his 'Future of Islam' (1882), made erratic and false statements. Zwemer's work 'Arabia the Cradle of Islam' is full of falsehood. It is he who forged the story of the demolition of the tomb of the Holy Prophet by King Sa'ud and flashed it in Europe. David George Hagarth, in his 'The Penetration of Arabia' (London 1904), and 'A History of Arabia', despite his accuracies, has made serious errors. H. St. J. Philby, in his 'Arabia', has covered the history of Najd, highlighting the mission of Muhammad. His work is mostly based on Arabic sources. D.S. Margoliouth, in his 'Wahhabiya and Wahhabies', has proved both his ignorance and antipathy against Islam. No different is W.W. Hunter, who in his 'The Indian Musalman' (1871) has shown his indignation against the Jihad movement of Syed Ahmad Shahid and has connected the Jihad movement with the Wahhabi movement. Andre Servier, in his 'Islam and Psychology of the Musalman' could not hide his hatred both against Islam and the mission of Muhammad. He regarded Islam as the greatest enemy of humanity. 'The Expansion of Islam', written by Wilson Cash, is a heap of falsehood. He scoffed at the movement of Muhammad. Richard Coke, who, in his 'The Arab's Place in the Sun', despite his sympathetic attitude to the movement, has relied on superstitions and forgeries. He could not make a distinction between 'Abd-Allah ibn-Sa'ud and Sa'ud ibn-'Abd-al-'Aziz. These are only few names among the primary and contemporary sources which contain some information regarding the Tawhid movement of Muhammad ibn-'Abd-al-Wahhab. Many works have appeared in recent decades which are worth studying.

The Muslim Writers:
Books written about Muhammad and his movement, by the Muslims merit brief mention here. Among the early Arab writers the noted ones are Shaikh 'Abd-al-Ghafur Attar, and Amin Sa'id. Among the writers of the Indo-Pak Subcontinent are Moulana Manzur Nu'mani and Moulana Mas'ud 'Alam Nadwiy. The latter's work, Muhammad ibn-Abd-al-Wahhab: Muslih, Mazlum and Muftara 'Alaih' (Arabic version Zamzam Press, 1977) is based on high scholarship and research. The author has exhausted all accessible material in Arabic, Urdu and Persian, in addition to European sources. Chapter one deals with the life and works of Muhammad while chapters two and three treat the rise of the Sa'ud family and the Turkish conquest of Hijaz and Najd respectively. The writings of Muhammad have been examined in the third chapter, while his Da 'wa and message have been analysed in the fourth chapter. The fifth chapter exposes the falsehood that were forged against Muhammad by pioneer forgers. The last chapter, being the critique of sources, is most significant. The author analyses his Arabic, Urdu and Persian, as well as the European sources objectively.

Writings Of Muhammad: A Critique Of His Critics:
Muhammad ibn-'Abd-al-Wahhab wrote many treatises (Risalat). Sixteen of them are extant now, while the others have been mentioned in his other works. The main treatise, being 'Kitab at- Tawhid’, served as the manifesto of his movement. He revitalised the concept of Tawhid in the light of the Qur'anic verses and the Ahadith. All other writings revolved around the same axis of Tawhid. The doctrinal, moral and ethical issues were discussed in the light of Tawhid. He also wrote commentaries of certain chapters of the Holy Qur’aan, the biography of the Holy Prophet and summarised the Sira of Ibn-Hisham and Zad-al-Ma’ad of Imaam Ibn-Qayyim.

Extravagance Of Accusations And Slanders And Mutilation Of Historical Facts:
Strange stories were forged by the opponents of the Shaikh. The pioneer of the movement was Sulaiman bin Muhammad bin Sahim (d. 1181) who, during the lifetime of Muhammad, launched the campaign of slander and accused him of demolishing the tomb of Zaid-ibn al-Khattab in Jahila, of the mosque adjacent to the grave, of burning books such as Dalaail Khairat and Rauda ar-Riyaahin and of condemning books such as Ibn-al-Farid and ibn-al-'Arabi as apostates. The truth is that the graves of Zaid and his companions, as aforesaid, were still unknown and the story of burning of the books is a blatant lie. The Shaikh, however, advised his followers not to read such books. With regard to the belief in sufi-Pantheism, he, being opposed to pantheistic ideas, cautioned his followers about the hazards of such beliefs.

Many scholars and Shaikhs joined the campaign of slander which was based on enmity and hatred, rather than on academic grounds. Shameless poems were written by Ibn-Firoze (d. 1801).

Muhammad ibn-'Abd-al-Wahhab, who purified and sanctified the concept of Tawhid and revived the Sunna of the Prophet, was also accused of laying claims to Prophethood and of denying the body corpus of Hadith. Shaikh Ahmad Zainil Wahlan was a deadly enemy of Muhammad and accused him of laying claims to Prophethood, although he could not declare it openly, due to public fear. These rumours were imported to the Indo-Pak Subcontinent. Moulvi Fadl Rasul Badayuni (d. 1822), spread the rumour about the denial of Hadith literature by the Wahhabis. 'Abd-Allah Yusuf 'Ali, the translator of the Holy Qur’aan, also believed in such fanciful rumours. It merely shows his ignorance about such an important Islamic movement. Even the Christian writers, such as Thomas Patrick Huges, who compared Wahhabism with the Protestants, confessed that the Wahhabis were the staunch followers of the Qur'aan and Sunna.

Another serious allegation was made that Muhammad considered Muslims, other than his own followers, as apostates and recommended their execution. Ibn-'Abdin ash-Shami (d. 1842), forged the story and he was joined by Ahmad Zaini Wahlan (d. 1886).These allegations were emphatically denied by Mubammad himself. It was unfortunate that a great scholar like Qadhi Muhammad ibn-'Ali Shawkani, without making a thorough investigation into the matter, supported such forged views. Similar confusion prevailed in the Indo-Pak Subcontinent when a scholar like Nawab Siddiq Hasan Khan (d. 1890), made conflicting remarks and statements about the movement, in his writings.

Some of the students of Muhammad took a hard line. Shaikh Ahmad ibn-Nasir ibn-'Uthman al-Mu'ammar (d. 1225 A.H.), a pupil of Muhammad, believed that the grave-worshippers and seekers of help from anyone other than Allah, were apostates. Similar views were held by Muhammad ibn-Ismail al-Aamir al-Yamani (d. 1182 A.H.), a contemporary supporter of Muhammad, although he softened his attitude later on.

The opposition movement reached its peak when it declared that Muhammad "kills people, robs them of their wealth and condemns Muslims as apostates". Some of the Indian scholars, such as Moulana Anwar Shah Kashmiri (d. 1933), also accused Muhammad of baseless charges, as mentioned above.

Allegations, such as undermining the Holy Prophet, free interpretation of the Qur’aan and the Sunna, denial of intercession of the Holy Prophet on the Day of Judgement, were emphatically refuted by both Muhammad and his son 'Abd-Allah. Among the forgeries, most shameful was the story that was concocted by the enemies about Sa'ud ibn-'Abd-al-Aziz ibn-Muhammad ibn-Saud (d. 1803). The enemies rumoured that King Sa'ud wanted to demolish the tomb of the Holy Prophet, but could not do so because of the lack of heavy instruments which could demolish such a solid building. This was a pure lie. Such stories were exploited by the colonialists and the Orientalists in order to incite Muslim sentiments against the movement. The Turkish government propagated that the Saudis had prohibited the Muslims from going for Hajj. One of the most amazing forgeries committed by Shaikh Badawi was when he wrote that portions of the Holy Qur'aan, deleted by Hadhrat 'Uthman the third Caliph from the main text of the Book, was still in possession of the Wahhabis.

Such lies, falsehood and slanders were broadcast and exploited by Western authors, in favour of the colonialists who were already trying to incite the colonized Muslims against the Wahhabi movement. They succeeded in doing so, especially in the Indo-Pak Subcontinent where they incited Muslims against the Jihad movement of Syed Ahmad Shahid, of which the prime targets were the English. They sowed the seed of incurable division, now being ploughed and harvested by their sympathisers - both the laity and the lettered.

[ Islamic Resurgent Movements in the Indo-Pak Subcontinent ; Syed Habibul Haq Nadvi ]


lui dice questo, perchè i deobandis e i tablighis sono stati influenzati dal wahabismo, ma i salafiti hanno pubblicato dei libri dove attaccano deobandis e tablighis, ecco tutto.

insomma fratello non lo vedi che ti basi su fonti pericolose? ecco perchè ti sei messo in testa certe cose tanto orribili...

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asma ha scritto:
certo, egli contrasta la setta dei salafiti
ma non il wahabismo che ha pesantemente influenzato i tablighis che è lui.


Lui è "i tablighis"??

E comunque, in base a che cosa dividi tra "salafiti" e "wahhabiti" quando il Mufti stesso ha specificato nella sua Fatwa:

Mufti Ebrahim Desai ha scritto:
The Wahabis, who call themselves Salafis, (...) They try to pull the wool over our eyes by affiliating themselves with the Salaf


Poi, Mufti Ebrahim Desai - rendono noto alcuni suoi collaboratori - sta rivedendo e riformulando i documenti che hai linkato: devi considerare che effettivamente sulla figura storica di Muhammad Ibn Abd-ul-Wahhab c'è divergenza di opinioni tra i sapienti, ed è indiscutibile che i suoi "seguaci", più passa il tempo è più hanno estremizzato le loro posizioni: sono loro che abbiamo oggi di fronte, e su di loro Mufti Desai ha parlato chiaro.

Inoltre non è infallibile - come nessun altro - e quindi col tempo ha riveduto le sue posizioni: come ti ho già detto, sta riformulando questi documenti, avendo avuto modo di constatare ulteriori fattori, senza dimenticare che comunque come musulmani siamo tenuti a pensare sempre il meglio dei nostri fratelli, e dividere tra Muhammad Ibn Abd-ul-Wahhab (che resta discutibilissimo) ed i moderni "wahhabiti" è la cosa più sicura.

Altrimenti, si finisce per fare takfir anche verso Shaykh Ibn Taymiyya (anch'egli un sapiente molto discusso, e sicuramente non meritevole dell'attenzione che gli concedono i "la-madhhabiyya", ma pur sempre un sapiente, pertanto meritevole di rispetto!).

asma ha scritto:
insomma fratello non lo vedi che ti basi su fonti pericolose? ecco perchè ti sei messo in testa certe cose tanto orribili...


Cose così tremende come il voler seguire la Sunna e rispettare la Shari`a??

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MessaggioInviato: Sab Feb 02, 2008 2:14 am    Oggetto: Rispondi citando

certo certo Desai si è sbagliato, sta rivedendo, come no, ti stai solo arrampicando sugli specchi fratello per negare l'evidenza delle mie sottolineature, che mostrano come sia assolutamente vero che deobandisti e Tablighi Jamaat sono stati influenzati dalla fitna satanica del Najd descritta dagli ahdith del Profeta e per questo non la condannano senza esitazione come fanno i veri sufi.

fonti pericolose: fonti najdiste, fonti estremiste vicine al terrorismo (leggiti le connessioni tra Tablighi Jamaat e il terrorismo) .

ibn Taymiyya non era che un deviato e un estremista confutato e riconfutato padre del wahabismo, Sheikh Kabbani e la gran parte degli Sheikh sufi tradizionali lo considerano come, nè più nè meno, ibn Abd-al-Wahhab an-Najdi al-khawarij.

Sheikh Hisham Kabbani scrive in "The Repudiation of 'Salafi' Innovations" (Kazi, 1996, p. 98):

"Ibn Taymiyya Compares Allah to the Moon In his infamous `Aqida wasitiyya."

"Ibn Taymiyya establishes a clear-cut case of tamthil or similitude for Allah and His attributes by comparing Him to the moon in his interpretation of the verse 57:4: 'He is with you wherever you are": The phrase "and He is with you" does not mean that He blends into creation... Nay the moon... one of the smallest of Allah's creations, is both placed in the heaven (mawdu`un fi al-samaa') and present with the traveler and the non-traveler wherever they may be. And the Exalted is above (fawq) the Throne, as a watchful guardian of His creatures and their protector Who is cognizant of them.'"

"Ibn Taymiyya's admirers may claim that he represents the doctrine of Ahl al-Sunna, but we all know that none of the Ahl al-Sunna ever compared Allah to the moon, or Allah's knowledge to the moon's rays. Exalted is Allah high above the fancies of those who give such examples for Him. Yet we find today the same type of aberration still passing for Islamic education, in books such as Ibn al-Uthaymin's Sharh al`aqida al-wasitiyya, which we will address in a few pages, and where the author, dissatisfied with Ibn Taymiyya's moon, turns to comparing Allah to the sun instead."


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asma ha scritto:
certo certo Desai si è sbagliato, sta rivedendo, come no, ti stai solo arrampicando sugli specchi fratello per negare l'evidenza delle mie sottolineature


Sinceramente non c'è bisogno: basta aspettare le prossime settimane insha'Llah per vedere la revisione di Mufti Desai..

asma ha scritto:
fonti pericolose: fonti najdiste, fonti estremiste vicine al terrorismo (leggiti le connessioni tra Tablighi Jamaat e il terrorismo).


Haha!!! :lol: Ridicola propaganda neo-con, ho visto far passare più o meno chiunque per "estremista sostenitore del terrorismo",
basta avere la barba (non è che anche Kabbani... :lol: ).

L'articolo è formulato tipo: "Tizio, detenuto a Guantanamo (senza accuse nè processo, ma il fatto di essere lì già per certe persone è abbastanza) ha avuto contatti (ha parlato) con Caio, che una volta è andato a khuruj con un gruppo di Dawa-e-tabligh...
Cerchiamo di essere seri..

asma ha scritto:
ibn Taymiyya non era che un deviato e un estremista confutato e riconfutato padre del wahabismo, Sheikh Kabbani e la gran parte degli Sheikh sufi tradizionali lo considerano come, nè più nè meno, ibn Abd-al-Wahhab an-Najdi al-khawarij.

Sheikh Hisham Kabbani scrive in "The Repudiation of 'Salafi' Innovations" (Kazi, 1996, p. 98):

"Ibn Taymiyya Compares Allah to the Moon In his infamous `Aqida wasitiyya."

"Ibn Taymiyya establishes a clear-cut case of tamthil or similitude for Allah and His attributes by comparing Him to the moon in his interpretation of the verse 57:4: 'He is with you wherever you are": The phrase "and He is with you" does not mean that He blends into creation... Nay the moon... one of the smallest of Allah's creations, is both placed in the heaven (mawdu`un fi al-samaa') and present with the traveler and the non-traveler wherever they may be. And the Exalted is above (fawq) the Throne, as a watchful guardian of His creatures and their protector Who is cognizant of them.'"

"Ibn Taymiyya's admirers may claim that he represents the doctrine of Ahl al-Sunna, but we all know that none of the Ahl al-Sunna ever compared Allah to the moon, or Allah's knowledge to the moon's rays. Exalted is Allah high above the fancies of those who give such examples for Him. Yet we find today the same type of aberration still passing for Islamic education, in books such as Ibn al-Uthaymin's Sharh al`aqida al-wasitiyya, which we will address in a few pages, and where the author, dissatisfied with Ibn Taymiyya's moon, turns to comparing Allah to the sun instead."


Cosa dimostra questo? Che Ibn Taymiyya è discusso? Ebbene, è quello che ho detto pure io.

Ma vediamo di non cadere nel settarismo e nella partigianeria.

Leggiti cosa dice Shaykh Gibril Fuad Haddad (discepolo di Shaykh Nazim) su Ibn Taymiyya:

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Ti invito infine (e poi l'estremista sono io) ad essere più moderata nei giudizi, ricordandoti che la diffamazione è un peccato molto grave.

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ibn Taymiyya non era che un deviato e un estremista confutato e riconfutato padre del wahabismo, Sheikh Kabbani e la gran parte degli Sheikh sufi tradizionali lo considerano come, nè più nè meno, ibn Abd-al-Wahhab an-Najdi al-khawarij.


Dimenticavo, visto che parli di Tasawwuf:

Abdullah ibn Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab (1115 - 1201 AH.)

"My father Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab and I do not deny or criticize the science of Sufism, but on the contrary we support it, because it purifies the external and the internal of the hidden sins, which are related to the heart and to the outward form. Even though the individual might externally be on the right way, internally he might be on the wrong way. Sufism is necessary to correct it."
[ad-Dia'at mukathaffa did ash-shaykh ibn Abdul Wahhab, p. 85]

Commento del fratello AbduLlah Ali al-Hanafi (da:

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Shaikh Muhammed ibn Abdul Wahab didnt criticize Authentic Tasawwuf as we read here, these days you have to becareful from who you learn Tasawwuf because a lot of People abuse the Science of Tasawwuf but Salafis make a Mistake by Generalizing all followers of Tasawwuf and some Salafis by denying it.

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Ibn Taymiyya

Ibn Taymiyya, murid della Tariqa Qadiriyya, ha dedicato due volumi del suo "Majmu' al-Fatawa" al Tasawwuf.

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Cosa voglio dire con questo, che io seguo Ibn Taymiyya e Muhammad Ibn Abdul-Wahhab?

No, semplicemente che chi sostiene di rifarsi ad Ibn Taymiyya e Muhammad Ibn Abdul-Wahhab ha generalizzato ed estremizzato alcune loro posizioni, oltre ad aver esagerato il loro rango (dandogli la precedenza su sapienti ben più importanti e molto meno discutibili - e Iddio è il più sapiente), e pertanto è ingiusto e poco cauto attribuire a loro le colpe dei loro seguaci - così come non avrebbe senso accusare Ibn Hanbal di antropomorfismo per colpa di gente che sosteneva di rifarsi a lui (vedi Imâm Ahmad's `Aqîda and Pseudo-H. anbali `Aqîda -

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); nè avrebbe senso accusare i cosiddetti "imam sciiti" - o Jafar as-Sadiq - di essere tali, per colpa di gente che sostiene di rifarsi a loro.

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MessaggioInviato: Sab Feb 02, 2008 4:41 pm    Oggetto: The official Deobandi view on Muhammad ibn Abdal Wahhab Rispondi citando

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The official Deobandi view on Muhammad ibn Abdal Wahhab

The official Deobandi view on Muhammad ibn Abdal Wahhab is found in the book al Muhannad ala'l Mufannad by Shaykh Khalil Ahmad al Sahranpuri. The latter book contains answers sent to the Ulama of Deoband as a way of discovering if the Deobandiyya are truly Ahlus Sunna wal Jama'ah from the Ulama of Makka an Madina. The reason why these answers were given by the Ulama of Deoband was in resonse to Shaykh Ahmad Rida Khan al Barelwi's campaingn against the Deobandi's (4 specifically that he made takfir upon: Ashraf Ali Thanawi, Rashid Ahmad al Gangohi, Khalil Ahmad and Qasim Nanautwi).

I recall that al Muhannad demonstrated that the Ulama of Deoband are not supporters of Ibn Abdal Wahhab and are in agreement with the Hanafi Faqih of his age: Imam Muhammad ibn Abidin (see his fatwa below). Of the fanous Deobandi Ulama, Shaykh Hussain Ahmad al Madani was vehemently anti Ibn Abdal Wahhab in his book: al Shihab al Thaqib.

Anyway, Ibn Abdal Wahhab was also refuted by his elder brother: Shaykh Sulayman (in his Sawa'iq al Ilahiyya) and some of his former teachers later opposed him. The following Fatwa from the young Deobandi Mufti of Leicester: Muhammad ibn Adam shows how the Deobandi's agreed with Imam ibn Abidin:

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After reading your fatawa on the Salafis could you please answer the following question?

Was Maulana Rashid Ahmed Ghangohi a Wahabbi and what are your views on him? As he issued the following fatwa:

Question: Who are the Wahabis and what was the belief of Abdul Wahab al-Najdi? What was his madhab and what type of person was he? What is the difference in belief between the people of Najd and Sunni Hanafi?

Answer: The followers of Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahab are called "Wahabis" and they had good (umdah) beliefs and their school of thought was Hanbali. Although his attitude was very extravagant (shidatt) he and his followers were good people. But, yes, those who exceeded the limits were overcome by roguishness (fassad). And their basic belief are all united, the difference they have is in actions is (like that) of Shafi'i, Hanafi, Maaliki and Hanbali.




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Date Posted: 30/06/2004


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In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful,

Shaykh Mawlana Rashid Ahmad al-Gangohi (Allah have mercy on him) was a great scholar of recent times in the Indian Subcontinent. He was a Muhaddith (scholar of Hadith), faqih (jurist), Mufassir (exegete), Sufi and a follower of the Hanafi School of Sunni Islamic law and the Matrudi Aqidah. He was an avid follower of the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) and immensely engrossed in his love (Allah bless him & give him peace).

He spent all his life studying, teaching and benefiting thousands of thirsty students of sacred knowledge. There was no one like him in his time in piety, knowledge, chastity and being steadfast on religion.

His teachers include Shaykh Mamluk al-Ali al-Nanotwi, Mufti Sadr al-Din al-Dehlawi, Shaykh Abd al-Ghani al-Dehlawi and others (Allah have mercy on them all). He took allegiance (bay’a) with the great Shaykh of Tasawwuf, Haji Imdad Allah al-Makki in the Chishtiyya spiritual order.

In the latter years of his life, he began teaching all the six books of Hadith (kutub al-Sittah) himself in one year with chains of transmission (isnad) going back to their authors. When he lost his eyesight, he stopped teaching and concentrated more on spiritually reforming his disciples (murids) in a manner that adhered to the teachings of the Qur’an and Sunnah.

He students number many, who themselves went on to become great scholars of their time. Scholars such as: Shaykh Khalil Ahmad al-Saharanfuri (author of the renowned commentary of Sunan Abu Dawud in 20 volumes, Bazl al-Majhud), Shaykh al-Hind Mahmud Hasan, Shaykh Abd al-Rahim Raifuri, Shaykh Yahya al-Kandahlawi, Imam Anwar Shah al-Kashmiri (Allah have mercy on them all) and many others were privileged to have studied by him.

His works include: Imdad al-Suluk, Tasfiyat al-Qulub (both in the science of Tasawwuf), Zubdat al-Manasic (rules pertaining to the ritual of Hajj), Sabil al-Rashad and Hidayat al-Shi’a (in refutation of Shi’as). His Fatawa were collected and compiled in a book known as Fatawa Rashidiyya, regarding which you have also asked.

He passed away to the mercy of Allah on Friday after the Jumu’ah Adhan in 1323 A.H. May Allah Almighty sanctify his secret and shower him with mercy and His pleasure, Ameen. (See: al-I’lam bi man fi tarikh al-hind min al-A’lam, 3/1229, Dar Ibn Hazm, Beirut print)

The above clearly demonstrates that Shaykh Rashid Ahmad al-Gangohi was a great scholar of traditional Sunni Islam, follower of the Matrudi Aqidah and the Hanafi School of Islamic law. He was in no way a follower of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab al-Najdi and was not in any way from those who reject the four Schools of Sunni Islamic law and condone Taqlid.

As far as what you have quoted from his Fatawa regarding Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab al-Najdi, it is true indeed. He answers two questions with regards to him. Below is the translation of each of the two questions and their answers:

“Question: What kind of a person was (Muhammad ibn) Abd al-Wahhab al-Najdi?”

“Answer: People call Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab a Wahhabi. He was a good person, and I have heard that he was a follower of the Hanbali School of Islamic law and acted upon the Hadith. He used to prevent people from Shirk and innovation (bid’a), but he was harsh (shadid) in his attitude.”

“Question: Who are the Wahhabis and what was the belief of Abd al-Wahhab al-Najdi? What was his Madhhab and what type of person was he? What is the difference in belief between the people of Najd and Sunni Hanafis?”

“Answer: The followers of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab are called Wahhabis. They had good (umdah) beliefs and their school of thought was Hanbali. However, they were very stringent in their attitude but he and his followers were good people. But, yes, those who exceeded the limits were overcome by wrongness (fasad). And basic beliefs of everyone are united. The difference they have in actions is (like that) of Hanafi, Shafi’i, Maliki and Hanbali.” (Fatawa Rashidiyya, P. 241-242)

The above is what the respected Shaykh wrote about Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab al-Najdi and his followers. However, one must understand the background of the Shaykh’s statements.

The great Faqih of recent times in the Indian Subcontinent, Shaykh Mufti Mahmud al-Hasan al-Gangohi (Allah have mercy on him) who passed away in 1994 A.D, the grand Mufti of India whose Fatawa are gathered and compiled in 17 volumes discusses the reason behind Shaykh Rashid Ahmad (Allah have mercy on him) mentioning this in his Fatawa.

Note that, these two scholars are two different people and not related to one another, though they both have the same last name, namely Gangohi, which is an attribution to a village known as Gangoh in India. Shaykh Rashid Ahmad (Allah have mercy on him) was the great grand-teacher of the more recent Mufti Mahmud al-Hasan (Allah have mercy on him), hence the latter holds the former in great regard and respect. This humble writer was also privileged to have received Ijazah in Hadith from Mufti Mahmud al-Hasan al-Gangohi.

Nevertheless, Mufti Mahmud al-Hasan al-Gangohi (Allah have mercy on him) states in his Fatawa that, Shaykh Rashid Ahmad (Allah have mercy on him) was initially unaware of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab al-Najdi’s position, because al-Najdi was initially known in the Subcontinent as a reformer of Sunnah, and the one who strived greatly in rejecting Bid’a and establishing the Sunnah. As such, the respected Shaykh also said what he had heard, for a Muslim should always hold good opinions about other Muslims until it is proven otherwise.

Thereafter, the respected Shaykh’s mentor and teacher sent him the copy of Radd al-Muhtar wherein Allama Ibn Abidin (Allah have mercy on him) clearly refuted Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab. Allama Ibn Abidin states:

“…As it has occurred in our times with the followers of Abd al-Wahhab al-Najdi, who appeared from Najd and imposed their control over the two sacred Harams. They used to attribute themselves to the Hanbali School but they believed that only they were Muslims and that who ever opposed their beliefs were polytheists (mushrik), thus they considered the killing of those who were from the Ahl al-Sunnah and their scholars to be legitimate, until Allah Most High destroyed their might and power.” (Radd al-Muhtar, 3/339-340, chapter regarding the followers of Abd al-Wahhab, the Khawarij of our times)

Mufti Mahmud al-Hasan states that had Shaykh Rashid Ahmad read what Allama Ibn Abidin stated in his Radd al-Muhtar regarding the Wahhabis, he would surely not have stated what he had in his Fatawa.

He states that this does not in any way demean the status and rank of Shaykh Mawlana Rashid Ahmad al-Gangohi, for he had said what he had heard. He did not have knowledge of the unseen, thus he cannot be blamed. Allama Ibn Abidin (Allah have mercy on him) was geographically closer to Najd, thus he was aware at first hand of what Shaykh Rashid Ahmad, who was living in India, was unaware of. (See: Fatawa Mahmudiyya, 13/411-412)

I would like to add here that this is clearly the case when we look at Shaykh Rashid Ahmad’s first Fatwa wherein he states “I have heard that he was a follower of the Hanbali School…..” stipulating that his information was purely based on what he had heard. This was not a matter of Fiqh or Shariah as such in which he needed to investigate, and anyway, a Muslim should always have good opinion (husn al-Zann) about fellow Muslims until the contrary is proven.

Moreover, the students of Shaykh Rashid Ahmad al-Gangohi (Allah have mercy on them all) clearly refuted the ideologies and actions of the Najdis. Shaykh Khalil Ahmad al-Saharanfuri (Allah have mercy on him), a student of the Shaykh, stated in his renowned al-Muhannad ala al-Mufannad that he and his teachers hold the same view as Allama Ibn Abidin regarding Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab al-Najdi and his followers. This was agreed upon and signed by almost all of the major scholars of the Indian subcontinent.

Finally before parting, I would like to say that I dislike the idea of dwelling over people’s personalities. Unfortunately, many of us are involved in debating about those who have passed away to the mercy of Allah; hence we have become negligent with actions (a’mal) and preparing one’s self for the hereafter. We will not be asked on the day of Judgment as to what opinion we held about such and such person, but what we will be questioned regarding is our own actions.

“That was a people that have passed away. They shall reap the fruit of what they did, and you of what you do! Of their actions there is no question in your case.” (Surah al-Baqarah, V. 134)

Therefore, do not dwell too much into personalities and names; rather, exceed them to conduct and deeds. Unfortunately, many Muslims argue and debate about these petty issues and leave the important aspects of Deen. Today, Muslims are being attacked in all fields by the enemies of Islam, yet here we are busy fighting amongst ourselves. Thus, we need to leave these issues to one side and concentrate on the things that unite us. May Allah Almighty bless this Ummah with unity, Ameen.

I was reluctant to answer this question and write on this subject, for there were far more important questions that needed answering. However, due to this question being posed repeatedly, I had no choice but to compile an answer. But we must remember that this is not something we need to dwell into, thus the matter is closed here, and I will not be answering any more questions on this topic.

And Allah Knows best


Muhammad ibn Adam
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AsSalamu `alaykum wa RahmatuLlahi wa BarakatuHu.

Ho ricevuto una precisazione da uno studente della Madrasa Inaamiyyah (a cui è legato il sito
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), che mi ha invitato a chiarire un punto a proposito dell'articolo elogiante Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Abd al-Wahhab postato dall'utente "asma" come proveniente dal sito web
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Come chiarito nella nota presente nella fatwa presente all'indirizzo:

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"Note: Mufti Ebrahim Desai and the ‘Ulamā affiliated with Ask-Imam do not agree with the views mentioned in the article, the views of Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab or the views of the current day Wahhabis wherein they differ with the Aqā’id and practices of the ‘Ulamā of Deoband and the remainder of the Ahl al-Sunnah. It is unknown how such a response was originally placed on this website. Kindly note that this serves as a clear and lucid renunciation from the aforementioned article.".

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"Nota: Mufti Ebrahim Desai e gli ‘Ulamā affiliati ad Ask-Imam non concordano con le opinioni menzionate nell'articolo, né con le opinioni di Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab né con le opinioni dei Wahhabiti di oggi in quelle questioni in cui essi discordano dalle Aqā’id [dottrine] e dalla pratiche degli ‘Ulamā di Deobandi e del resto di Ahl al-Sunnah. Non sappiamo come una tale risposta sia stata originariamente inserita nel sito web. Si noti cortesemente che ciò vale come chiara e assoluta rinuncia del suddetto articolo.".

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Qualcuno mi dica brevemente riassumere?
Wahhabita Chi?

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Sehide ha scritto:
Qualcuno mi dica brevemente riassumere?
Wahhabita Chi?


Bu fatwa vahabiler hakkında..

Vahabiler:
-Insanbiçimcilik akidet
-Hanefi mezhep karşı
-Tasavvuf karşı

Bazıları vahabiler ahl as-Sunnah değil..

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che cos e quella foto?

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Fabri IBRA Khan ha scritto:
che cos e quella foto?


Una foto...

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e questo e un filmato
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magari quello nella foto e del minhaj di quello del video.

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Fabri IBRA Khan ha scritto:
e questo e un filmato
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magari quello nella foto e del minhaj di quello del video.


No, e non capisco in base a che cosa dovrebbe esserlo.

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Vahhabilerin EHLÝ SÜNNET'e karþý olduklarýný biliyorum..
Ýbni Teymiyye hakkýnda ki görüþünüz ne ??

Foto ??
Sorun ne ??

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